Total California Recall [David Horowitz: Arnold is "the only possibility of a win for state GOP"]

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 11, 2003 | David Horowitz

[Thud]

He assumes that Schwarzenegger won't turn out to be another horse's a** like Jesse Ventura. I hope not, because IMO Arnie will win.

[NutCrackerBoy]

[...] if someone ever goes out on a limb and fights against socialism, the establishment will leave them swinging from the gallows. Its like a Trent Lott syndrome

Please give an example of a Pub Sen or Rep coming out anti-big-gov and getting slapped down by the admin or party bigs. I don't happen to remember case like that and would like more info.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

It will help to revive the California Republican Party.

Sorry, but I'm here and it's not happening. Arnold's base of support is Democrat and Independent. That's why the Dems are so scared.

[Zack Nguyen]

John McCain is a cool Republican and could have carried the state in 2000 if the Republican primary electorate had not preferred George Bush.

Surely Horowitz is joking. Bush poured $20 million into the state, and Gore spent $0. Bush lost by 13. I find it impossible, absolutely impossible, to believe that McCain could have won. No liberal would have voted for him. A lot of conservatives would have stayed home over McCain's abortion beliefs.

[Irene Adler]

"The White House very much wants a GOP governor in Sacremento. So they will probably get behind Arnold and ask Simon and/or McClintock to drop out. I do not think Bush cares who the CA. governor is as long as he has an R after his name. With The Republicans in control of the Governorship Bush feels CA. is in play for the GOP in 04. That way the Dems will to spend a lot of time and money in this state. The more the Dems spend in CA. the less money they can spend in other states. CA. is very expensive place to campaign in. The GOP will have a lot more money than the Dems for the 04 presidential run."

I agree. Also, we should never forget that whenever a U.S. Senator dies in office, the governor appoints his or her replacement. I know Senators don't die very often, but when it does happen, having a Republican governor in the state in question, RINO or not, is crucial.

Arnold will win in CA. People who rarely or never vote will come out to vote for him just because he is a celebrity, and those who rarely vote are a LARGE bunch of people. With this group, rumors about his sex life or early pot smoking may INCREASE his appeal and will certainly NOT decrease it. Immigrants will vote for him because he is an attractive and visibly successful immigrant. The more crowded the field gets, the more Arnold will stand out, and the more nuts enter the contest, the more credible he looks. Unless the 9th Circus stops the recall election, or Arnold drops out for some reason, he will win.

[Zack Nguyen]

Arnold is a blessing for the GOP.

I disagree. The head of the party, to a great degree, defines the party's beliefs. I am afraid that Arnold's liberalism would drive out the conservatives in the party. Arnold is a liberal and would hire liberal staff and seek to work with liberals.

[Prince Caspian]

Met Horowitz. Wasn't impressed.

That's funny. I heard he wasn't impressed with you either. ;-)

[dmanLA]

Although I don't agree with Horowitz all the time, he is right this time.

Arnold is the only way to get a Rep in Sacramento. Yes, he is not a true conservative. So?!?!

Remember, we are suffering a death of a thousand cuts by the liberals. It's time for them to suffer some cuts too.
Incrementalism. It works for them, now let's turn it on the liberals.

Besides, Arnold can make being and voting Republican cool again. I know that doesn't matter to us freepers but there aren't enough of us to win elections. What does matter to us is TURNING THE TIDE.

[CyberCowboy777]

If and only if the numbers look bad for Tom at the very last moment I would vote for Arnold.

GET OUT SIMON!

[wayoverontheright]

This is so much bigger than Horowitz realizes. It represents the first time a Democrat Humpty Dumpty couldn't be patched up, and then propped back up, by the main stream media, a big, big emotional event for the dark side.

The California recall is a grass roots repudiation of leftist failed policies. It has to be glaringly apparent to all that too much government has its dangers, something you couldn't have gotten the rank and file Californian to admit to a few months ago.

It's for these reasons the Clintons were going to get involved a few days ago, then came to their senses. This is big. This is good for our side.

[lilylangtree]

Nice to know that the feeling was mutual. Thank you! :)

[HamiltonJay]

I have stated these thoughts here myself, had Ahnold not entered the race, this recall was nothing but disaster for the republicans in Cali.

He is the only canidate with an R beside his name that can win and carry enough mandate to force the legislature and establishment to deal with them. ANyone else and they will just get stonewalled.

I spent a year in Cali, and I can tell you right now, what much of american considers a hard core conservative cannot carry stateway there. The densely populated liberal urban centers just overwhelm the more conservative less populated, if geographically larger, rural regions.

Now personally I am not a fan of this recall movement, but its not because I like Davis... I don't.

I think California, like New York City before it must be forced to pay the price for its decades long dance with social and economic liberalism, because only after it has had to do that can you really have large scale change happen in terms of the electorate. I think this recall will likely short circuit a long overdue political shift for the golden state.

Because should fiscal conservatism and social conservatist policies come out of this recall with a simple plurality, and give the state some breathing room, they will go right back to social and liberal spending and policies shortly after whoever takes the helm is gone... because they weren't forced to deal completely and fully with the foolishness of their ways.

You need to force people to deal with the calamities they create, if you force a solution on them without them being forced to recognize and deal with it themselves, you just delay the calamity, don't end it... they will repeat the same things that got them in trouble as soon as the "forced" solution is out of the picture.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Thank you David Horowitz, Hugh Hewitt, Ann Coulter, and Sean Hannity for not living in conservative fantasy land where rooting for the most conservative Republican who has no chance to win is somehow noble and advances our cause.

[HamiltonJay]

Really that's what the recall is? I am a conservative and I think the recall represents nothing more than sour grapes, and throws republican ideals out the window. Sure Davis is a horses butt, but the people of california fairly elected him (primarily because the republicans put forth probably the only person on the planet who couldn't have beat Davis in 2000)

Now with some politicians money, and some shred manipulation, the people are going to just ignore the entire concept of Representative Republicanism and relegate strictly to true DEMOCRACY.. or mob rule, hell with the rule of law, the law is whatever we decide it to be. Its nonsense.

True DEMOCRACY is an utterly flawed and failed construct, not one founding father EVER referred to this nation as a democracy, she is a republic. I don't see any long term good coming from abandoning the civil rule of law and republican politics to satiate the instant gratification desires of the mob.

Sorry guys, I really don't see this recall in the big picture as anything good.

[Cinnamon Girl]

What state do you live in, HamiltonJay?

[HamiltonJay]

I live in Pennsylvania at the moment. Lived in California in 2000 and 2001.

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[FairOpinion]

"why don't conservatives see that Arnold is the battering ram to revive the GOP in california? "

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Because the so-called conservatives don't want to revive the Republican party, they are the Democrats secret weapon.

[GailA]

Arnie is much like Rudy, and conservative republicans LOVE Rudy.

[djreece]

This Republican is rejoicing. Having Arnold in this is going to have all sorts of interesting implications.

With that aside, this piece is one of the poorest pieces of political analysis I have seen in a long time. Maybe Horowitz needs to get some sleep; he is so wrong on so much here that it is pathetic.