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Total California Recall [David Horowitz: Arnold is "the only possibility of a win for state GOP"]
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 11, 2003 | David Horowitz

Posted on 08/11/2003 9:16:06 AM PDT by RonDog

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1 posted on 08/11/2003 9:16:08 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: AnnaZ; diotima; Bob J; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; gc4nra; ...
"...For all these reasons Republicans of all factions should rejoice at the Schwarzenegger candidacy.

It offers the only possibility of a win for state Republicans or for the Bush campaign in California.
It will help to revive the California Republican Party.

And it could reshape the politics of the nation." - David Horowitz

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2 posted on 08/11/2003 9:19:54 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
The first of these would be a defeat of the recall and hence a win for the Democrats.

I don't see this as any worse than not attempting a recall to begin with. In fact, it would be better, because even prevailing in the recall won't be a plus on the Davis resume. In 2006, the race would be against a Democrat non-incumbent whose party leader faced the first gubernatorial recall in state history, and whose miserable record was seared into the consciousness of the voters. That couldn't be anything but an improvement for the Republican in that race.

3 posted on 08/11/2003 9:22:43 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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4 posted on 08/11/2003 9:26:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (All we need from a Governor is a VETO PEN!!!)
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To: RonDog
Take your pick ...


5 posted on 08/11/2003 9:28:06 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: RonDog
Or ...


6 posted on 08/11/2003 9:28:17 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: RonDog; PhiKapMom
Republican BUMP
7 posted on 08/11/2003 9:28:55 AM PDT by CedarDave (New slogan for the environmentalist whackos: "Its for the Landscape")
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To: RonDog
Whether the recall is a good idea is now moot since it's a reality. But I can't help shaking the notion that the recall wasn't so much a movement of the people, as it was a publicity stunt by various radio talkshow hosts (numerous radio hosts take credit for coming up with the original idea for the recall, and are using their claim as a way to promote themselves and up their ratings).
8 posted on 08/11/2003 9:30:13 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: John Jorsett
I don't see this as any worse than not attempting a recall to begin with. In fact, it would be better

Funny you should put it that way, because David Horowitz was one of the main whiners/cynics/leg piddlers that said we "could never get this recall on the ballot."

Don't think I have forgotten where you stood David Horowitz.

9 posted on 08/11/2003 9:31:47 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: RonDog
Met Horowitz. Wasn't impressed.
10 posted on 08/11/2003 9:33:04 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: CedarDave
why don't conservatives see that Arnold is the battering ram to revive the GOP in california? get in, make the conservatives view more palpable for the state and work from there. Arnold is a blessing for the GOP.
11 posted on 08/11/2003 9:33:40 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: MeeknMing
Vote early, vote often. LOL.

You're too cool.

12 posted on 08/11/2003 9:35:32 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: John Jorsett
See also:

Mark Steyn: The Gubernator?
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 08/10/03 | Mark Steyn
Posted on 08/09/2003 5:43 PM PDT by Pokey78

Profile: Arnold Schwarzenegger

The best scene in The Last Action Hero (1993) was a clip from Laurence Olivier's Hamlet. Arnold Schwarzenegger, edited into the 1948 monochrome and taking dear Larry's role as the eponymous ditherer, starts off the soliloquy, cuts it short and opens fire on the castle, all the while puffing on his stogie. As the unseen narrator puts it, "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark - and Hamlet is takin' out the trash!"

A week ago, it looked as if the roles had been reversed. The conventional wisdom was that Ah-nuld wasn't man enough for California politics. Instead of saying "Hasta la vista, Gray Davis!" and blowing the punk out of the Governor's office, he was nancying around in doublet and hose whimpering, "To be or not to be, that is the question". He'd been scared off. His Kennedy wife didn't want him to run, and, besides, too many people had too much dirt on too many of the sexual perks your big-time Hollywood star avails himself of over the years. He was going to wiggle out, no doubt promising that "Ah'll be back, maybe next election, or the one after, if my wife will let me."

And so not for the first time the experts underestimated Schwarzenegger. On Wednesday's Tonight Show, he announced that he was in. Something is rotten in the State of California - and Arnie is takin' out the trash! Collyvurnja, here he comes!

Whether or not he'll win, nobody can say for certain: the rules of the recall election are as whimsical as a sudden-death gameshow round. The standard line is that it's a "circus", but pre-Arnie it was more of a freak show, filled by various unsatisfying midgets: the pornographer Larry Flynt; the diminutive ex-sitcom-player Gary Coleman; a bounty hunter from Sacramento; the extravagantly-endowed self-proclaimed "Love Goddess" Angelyne (she's a one-woman circus, if only in the sense that she has a big top); and the wannabe celebrity, obscure populist and rumoured fourth Gabor sister Arianna Stassinopoulos Huffington, best remembered in Britain (if at all) as Bernard Levin's ex-squeeze. But no matter how many little clowns pour out of the miniature car, it is the entry of the muscleman that has made this a circus worth seeing.

Whatever happens, he has played his opening hand at a crowded table brilliantly. Arnold has wanted to be Governor of California for two decades, but October 7 represents his best shot. For one thing, there's no primary election in a recall campaign. In a normal election, Arnie wouldn't stand a chance of getting his watered-down "moderate Republicanism" past the death-before-electability crowd who dominate GOP primaries in California. He's unsound on almost everything that matters to them. On the other hand, that supposedly puts him closer to the average voter...

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13 posted on 08/11/2003 9:36:11 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
I think that Arnold is good for Bush right now, from a PR perspective.

Arnold will deflect the media from their Bush witch hunt and help to restore the reputation of Republicans after being demonized by dims and the media for the last 8 months+.

What I have found totally pathetic is the fact that republicans in power have taken a big step left in recent years, but do nothing to counter the stereotype they OWN of being radical right wing oligarch extremists filled with hatred that are the biggest threat to the US ever.

Why is this? And if someone ever goes out on a limb and fights against socialism, the establishment will leave them swinging from the gallows. Its like a Trent Lott syndrome- they beat him so severely that he will NEVER rock the boat about anything again. It appears as though all Senators are following his example.

Arnold at least says what he is, even if in generalities for the most part now. I found it very refreshing when Matt Lauer copped an attitude and immediately attacked him with a question about money (pin the money on the repubs bit).
Arnold pulled a Reagan and claimed comm failure. The media then went collectively BERSERK about his audacity to defy them about anything. That was priceless. If he continues to handle the press with fortitude, it might lessen their 'kung fu grip' on republican necks.

Anyway, I think 'stirring the pot' on many fronts is good for the party.

<Rant OFF
14 posted on 08/11/2003 9:39:32 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (All Dems is Pimps and Ho's)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Yeah, it was a rant.

but do nothing to counter the stereotype they OWN of being radical right wing oligarch extremists filled with hatred that are the biggest threat to the US ever.

Are you sure you are "at war with liberals"? This sets off alarm bells that you trying to appease them, quite pathetically, into thinking that you are a moderate voice of reason. If you are the definition of "at war" with liberalism, than I am switching foxholes and getting closer to the front.

This one smells too "French."

15 posted on 08/11/2003 9:45:24 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
hehe ! I found that first one, and started posting it shortly after Arnold was brought up as a possible candidate. Just recently, someone fixed up that 'vote early, vote often' design and I 'borrowed' it from them ...

16 posted on 08/11/2003 9:46:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
See also, from www.hughhewitt.com:
August 8, 2003
Posted at 10:20 AM, Pacific

REASONS TO SUPPORT ARNOLD:

Rush is reported to be slamming the AS candidacy. I haven't heard him do so, but many conservatives are most definitely doing so, so here are the reasons why center-right Republicans and conservative Republicans should vote for AS:

1. AS can win. The others in the race who would make acceptable governors --Bill Simon, Tom McClintock, and Peter Ueberroth-- cannot marshall enough votes to top the almost certain 25 to 30% that Cruz Bustamante will roll up. Objectivity matters a great deal here, and even if AS hadn't gotten into the race, the presence of more than one "movement" candidate dooms them all. Period. End of story. Arguing this point doesn't change the facts on the ground.

2. AS is best positioned to withstand the Graystopo, as the slime machine Gray has perfected has come to be called. Even if there was only one movement conservative in the race, he would be a target that would be mercilessly mowed down. Complaining about it doesn't stop it from happening.

3. AS does great things for the candidacy of Tony Strickland against Boxer in '04 and of course puts California in play for President Bush. So he's closer to Pataki than to Reagan, so what. A candidate who wins and governs to my satisfaction 65 to 75% of the time is better than a candidate who talks like I talk and loses.

4. Imagine you are Jim DeMint and you need to raise some money. Wouldn't you love to be able to call the Bush people and ask them to get AS on a jet to Charleston for a little $1,000 a head gathering? This is what Bill Clinton does 24/7/365. AS is a hyperdraw, matched only by the President and the Veep. Three such draws is better than two.

5. Finally, the state is in desperate shape. AS is right, businesses and talent are fleeing. Unless the bleeding stops, this economy continues to drag the national economy down, and with them both, the re-elect numbers of the President.

The purists have to get over it and get behind a winning effort. - Hugh Hewitt


17 posted on 08/11/2003 9:48:06 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: lilylangtree
Would have met him so that I could be unimpressed, too, but he impressed me by backing out of the appearance.
18 posted on 08/11/2003 9:51:16 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: RonDog
Everybody gets it except the McClintock bots. Arnie is our only chance of winning in this state. The bots must like losing, I don't and I'm voting for Arnie.
19 posted on 08/11/2003 10:10:31 AM PDT by John Lenin (Imagine there's no liberals, its easy if you try)
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To: RonDog
The White House very much wants a GOP governor in Sacremento. So they will probably get behind Arnold and ask Simon and/or McClintock to drop out. I do not think Bush cares who the CA. governor is as long as he has an R after his name. With The Republicans in control of the Governorship Bush feels CA. is in play for the GOP in 04. That way the Dems will to spend a lot of time and money in this state. The more the Dems spend in CA. the less money they can spend in other states. CA. is very expensive place to campaign in. The GOP will have a lot more money than the Dems for the 04 presidential run.
20 posted on 08/11/2003 10:21:48 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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