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To: 50sDad
There is sadly no tuck taken with the far more resonable view that God has intentionally created man in his (thinking) image over a long span of time

Which is along the lines of my personal beliefs ... I have a REAL problem with doctrines that have to resort to threats of some fiery hell for non-believers ... I give them the same credibility and respect that I afford the Taliban ... an omnipotent being would NOT need to use fear and intimidation to gain followers

576 posted on 08/13/2003 11:19:53 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
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580 posted on 08/13/2003 11:27:26 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: clamper1797
Which is along the lines of my personal beliefs ... I have a REAL problem with doctrines that have to resort to threats of some fiery hell for non-believers ... I give them the same credibility and respect that I afford the Taliban ... an omnipotent being would NOT need to use fear and intimidation to gain followers...

I see all kinds of metaphors and parables in the Bible. Nowhere do I see a commandment to believe that everything is literal.

I wish I had been collecting the various interpretations presented on these threads. Each and every poster who presents an explanation for some passage does so with such complete earnestness -- declaring that failure to believe this particular interpretaion puts your soul in mortal peril -- and each contradicting the interpretation of other posters. Perhaps that's why Jesus only handed out two commandments, both emphasising the word love and neither containing any reference to belief.

586 posted on 08/13/2003 11:35:59 AM PDT by js1138
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To: clamper1797
I have to side in one wize with the Firey ones...I think it would be unjust for God not to punish sin. The problem is that most of what Humans want to do is, and all sins are the same to God. Picture one of those old "Rube Goldberg" machines...I want to do thing A, which will after a time have the result of opening up a trapdoor droping me in a glass furnace. Now, I really want to A. But my wisdom is not great enough to stop me, even if I know the result. God has provided a sacrifice to keep me from dropping into the glass furnace. The problem is that most people today want to put their face in a glass furnace, even knowing what the result is.

Should threats of destruction be the driving force behind saving the souls of men? I don't think so. Force is a very poor motivator for actual change...you are more likely to get temporary external change, and no real internal change, which I imagine God really dislikes. What Christ did himself, and what I think real Christians should emulate, is say that "Yes, punishment awaits the wicked. But you can do something today that will save you from your self-chosen death and annialation. Christ is the payment for what you have done in the past, and you can change your nature from Dark to Light by accepting his gift, and choosing every day to try to do the right things."

It is wrong to say, "Ye are Dammed to Hellfire for failing to Blindly Accept Parable as Fact!" It would be more in God's Kingdom to say, "Humans tend to choose evil things that feel good, but you can be saved through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and remade anew!" If you were outside the Faith, which message do you think would win more souls?

602 posted on 08/13/2003 12:05:04 PM PDT by 50sDad ("There are FOUR LIGHTS! FOUR LIGHTS!")
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To: clamper1797
... an omnipotent being would NOT need to use fear and intimidation to gain followers ...

Is this the SAME concept you used raising your children?

726 posted on 08/14/2003 6:22:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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