Herman Cain, Ga U.S.Senate Candidate, may be the national Democratic Party's worst nightmare.

The Florida Times-Union ^ | June 4, 2003 | The Florida Times-Union Opinion

[Kuksool]

{Cain isn't about to win the GOP Primary}

But think of the fits Tyrone Brooks, John Lewis, and Cynthia McKinney would have, if Herman Cain wins.

{I'm throwing my support to Collins, as Isakson is too "moderate" for me}

On paper, Mac Collins is the best GOP candidate. He represents a semi-rural district just south of Atlanta. He has the image of a "down home, blue collar working man". This working class image is needed to appeal to voters in Middle GA. Carrying Middle GA is critical to winning statewide elections in GA. After all, the GOP giant slayers, Sonny Perdue and Saxby Chambliss, are from that region.

Isakson wouldn't be able to carry Middle GA. People, living south of Atlanta, would see him as a Country Club Republican who cares only for the rich.

[Arkinsaw]

1. "Subsidizing white males", is it? As opposed to the opposite that's been going on for three generations?

Actually its white females, but the sentiment is correct. Your fallacious implication that decrying subsidizing others with their money automatically implies acceptance of subsidizing with others money doesn't fly. You can judge him on his words, but adding your own implications won't cut it.

2. "...have no ownership of your contributions..." Show me where you and I have any ownership of the SS money that confiscatory taxation has wrested from us; and

You are assuming that the speaker is implying that you and I have ownership of our money just because he told his listerners that they don't. Another logical fallacy.

3. ".and can't pass (them) on to your children and grandchildren..." I don't know of ANY instance where SS benefits are "passed on" to heirs, unless you don't report the relative as dead.

Well, something you two agree on at least.

The man is clearly a conservative. You have illustrated my point about him being written off by some no matter what.

[Arkinsaw]

Do you really think so?

Sadly you only have to read the rest of the thread to see a little of it.

[hometoroost]

I agree, and that's one of the things that make Herman Cain so powerful and effective.

[Savage Beast]

Sounds good, but will he put a stop to the radical "environmentalists"?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up! Hugs!

[rdb3]

Why won't you support Cain?

[backhoe]

For whatever it is worth, I support, and will vote for Mr. Cain. He's a good man.

For the dubious, kindly go to his website and read his own words.

[Engine82]

YOU are right. Cain is not attacking colorless people (white like me). He is trying to wake up the black population to the fact that they do not receive the benefit of the taxes they are forced to pay (social security). Taxes imposed on them by the democRATS.

[Johnbalaya]

thx for the links...from watching the vid clip, he looks like he has great stage presence, and has an inspirational tone that should appeal to voters

[Guillermo]

I would support Cain if he was the nominee, for sure.

But I won't support him in the primary.

Mac Collins is an effective legislator, and has the grass-roots to win the general.

[Guillermo]

Isakson has grown much more conservative since the '94 election.

I don't really trust him, and, he voted to keep the US in the UN while Collins voted to get us out.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

"If you work 40 years putting money into Social Security and die at 68," he explained, "you have subsidized white males, have no ownership of your contributions and can't pass (them) on to your children and grandchildren."

This is almost a direct quote from Rush and is 100% correct. You need to think through the statement and understand that it is an attack on Social Security. Understand what is being said before you attack it.

[mhking]

The DNC already dismisses black GOP's, because of your numbers as a voting bloc. And the GOP shouldn't throw away political capital - UNLESS, black GOP's can prove that they are a viable, growing movement.

The Dems already (as we all know) take blacks for granted. The GOP tends to take that same tact ("Aw, they're black, they're gonna vote Democratic") in general, ignoring the slowly increasing black conservative base.

That base is small. It will continue to remain small in 2004. But by at least addressing it, even though the growth rate is small, it will begin to grow.

My personal feeling is that there won't be a significant increase in black conservative votership until at least 2008. But the worst thing the Republicans can do is to ignore that dissolusioned base now. Each conservative - black or otherwise - that can be brought to the fold is one less to have to worry about later. Not only that, the sheer power of being able to point to individuals who do not follow the Jackson-Sharpton party line is immeasurable.

[mhking]

I missed this one last night (the hazards of getting the kids ready for the first day of school.

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[Kuksool]

Isakson is the weakest of the GOP nominees running for the 2004 Senate. He could probably beat Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin. Isakson would have a tough time standing up to Thurbert Baker. Against Jim Marhsall, Johnny Isakson would be steamrolled. A Middle Georgian, who is pro-life and pro-gun, gives the Democrats the advantage in the Peach State.

[Ditto]

I don't know of ANY instance where SS benefits are "passed on" to heirs, unless you don't report the relative as dead.

Then you don't understand the logic behind privatizing a portion of SS contributions.

[NYC Republican]

Mr. Cain is conservative pro-life Republican and if I have my way the next Senator from the great state of Georgia (I am a Georgian).

If these are his views, and his other positions are conservative, or leaning conserative, he would make a great Senator.

[Guillermo]

I agree...Isakson would be a very weak candidate compared to Collins.

Collins is just far enough out of Atlanta to identify with non-metro swing voters. I just don't think Isakson can identify with them, who are the ones who deliver elections in statewide races.

[Conservateacher]

Forgive my intrusion -

This guy seems to be an awesome candidate. I sent Washington state money to Norm Coleman and now will send some to support Cain. (Note to everyone ---Nethercutt needs help (money) to beat Murray)