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Man who survived 131-foot jump into canyon lake says he won't do it again (Duh!)
Twin Falls Times-News ^ | 8.7.03 | Brandon Fiala

Posted on 08/10/2003 3:42:17 PM PDT by mhking

TWIN FALLS -- Josh Tucker routinely jumped off cliffs, having jumped from nearly every spot at Hidden Lakes in the Snake River Canyon -- except one.

Tucker wanted to go still higher, to a height people said was suicidal -- 131 feet.

"It was my first time that high before," Tucker said. "It was the last spot before I had jumped all the places, and it's the highest spot I know of."

The 20-year-old Hansen resident had just jumped off "Homicide," a jump spot at Hidden Lakes, when he said he wanted to go higher July 28, said Kyle Albertson, 22, of Twin Falls.

"(Tucker) said 'It all looks the same after 80 feet,'" Albertson said. "I said, 'You're crazy.'"

Tucker climbed the canyon wall as "tons of people egged him on," Albertson said. Tucker didn't stop climbing until he had almost reached the canyon rim -- 131 feet above the lake and only about 10 feet beneath the rim.

And then he jumped.

"I hit the water right, but my leg was tilted slightly," Tucker said this week from a hospital bed a Magic Valley Regional Medical Center, where he was still being treated for a compound fracture of his left leg. "It was the (impact of) the water. I didn't hit the bottom or any rocks."

Cliff jumping in the Hidden Lakes area is a popular -- but dangerous -- pastime. A 19-year-old man died there in 1999 while cliff-jumping, and 22-year-old Samuel J. Stone died in 2001 after diving off a 60-foot cliff, according to reports.

Troy Palmer, who manages the lifeguards at Dierkes Lake, said jumping isn't encouraged.

"We certainly don't encourage people to go back there to jump," he said. "We've thought about restricting certain areas, but I don't know if there is an easy way to do it."

The jump and rescue

Albertson, who has jumped at Hidden Lakes for 12 years, said the last person he saw jump from the height to which Tucker had climbed was eight years ago.

"He broke a lot of ribs and probably had some internal injuries," Albertson said. "That guy was drinking alcohol, too."

But Tucker was only high on adrenaline as he looked 130 feet to the lake below, Albertson said.

Still, "I knew something was going to happen, so I moved over to where he was going to land," Albertson said.

After Tucker hit the water, he surfaced and said something was wrong with his leg, Albertson said.

"Then, all these bubbles and blood came to the surface," he said. "I saw a bone sticking out the leg when I looked at it."

"It was like a shark movie, with bubbles and blood," said A.J. Stone, 17, of Twin Falls, who also helped rescue Tucker.

Albertson said he dove into the lake after Tucker hit the water. Albertson and others helped pull Tucker from the lake.

Tourniquets were placed on Tucker's leg to slow the bleeding as others ran to get help.

"I stood by him about an hour," Albertson said.

Lifeguards from Dierkes Lake, about a half-mile away, drove to the lake, said lifeguard Nick Mindock, 17, of Twin Falls.

"His friends had pulled him out, and we put a C-collar on him," he said. "We put him on a backboard and waited for EMTs."

When paramedics arrived, lifeguards and others swam Tucker across the lake on the backboard, Albertson said. The swim was needed to get Tucker to an access road.

"There were about six of us," he said.

Once on the other side, Tucker was carried to a Life Flight helicopter, Albertson said.

Aftermath

Tucker said Wednesday he wasn't sure when he will be released from the hospital. His last surgery was Tuesday afternoon.

"I won't be able to walk for two months, and it will be at least a year before I heal completely," he said.

Tucker said a number of strangers helped rescue him, including Stone and his friends who had Boy Scout first aid training.

"They did everything, and I'm glad they helped," he said.

Now that he has jumped from every spot at Hidden Lakes, does Tucker regret his fateful jump?

"I don't regret jumping, but I won't do it again -- not without a parachute," he said. "My advice is not to do it."

Tucker said his step-father measured the spot from where he jumped at 180 feet above the water. However, Twin Falls police measured the spot and say it's actually 131 feet, a police spokeswoman said.

The thrill -- and danger -- of cliff jumping

Hitting the water after falling for even 60 feet severely jolts the body, Albertson said.

"Sixty feet is the highest I jump, and it feels like your body crumbles when you hit the water," he said. "Usually, I'll have whiplash the next day."

Albertson said most people don't jump from higher than 60 feet.

"I know my limits," he said.

Brandon Farrer, 16, of Jerome, was cliff jumping Tuesday afternoon at Hidden Lakes -- despite having seen Tucker's bloody leg right after he jumped.

"We're going to be a little more cautious now," he said.

Ryan Tippetts, 17, of Jerome was also cliff jumping Tuesday.

"It's fun and relaxing," he said.

Palmer said nearly all serious injuries come from people jumping at Hidden Lakes, though there are smaller cliffs at Dierkes Lake from which people jump as well.

"In the last five years, that (Hidden Lakes) is where 98 percent of all major accidents happen," he said.

Palmer said he considers a major accident to be any time paramedics are called.

Tucker's jump was this year's second major accident, Palmer said, and each year there are about two or three major accidents.

If people decide to jump, they should keep several points in mind, Palmer said.

"Stick to the lower cliffs, and stay in your comfort zone," he said.

Peer pressure is a common problem, Palmer said.

"People often challenge one another to go higher," he said.

Alcohol should be avoided, as it is often involved in accidents, Palmer said.


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Splat?
1 posted on 08/10/2003 3:42:17 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 08/10/2003 3:42:50 PM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
yeah, but he did catch some bitchin' air!
3 posted on 08/10/2003 3:46:10 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: mhking
I used to love cliff jumping. The highest I jumped was 50 feet, from the I-94 bridge between Wisconsin and Minnesota. There are now fewer and fewer places to jump legally around here.

Unless there is a huge differece between 50 & 60 feet, the guy who claims the 60 foot jump is hard on the body is exaggerating. You know when you hit the water, for certain, but you don't get whiplash.
4 posted on 08/10/2003 3:51:10 PM PDT by mrjeff
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To: mrjeff
I jumped off the 15 meter platform board at the Air Force Academy once. Thats somewhere between 45 and 50 feet.

It was an incredible experience. I did not do it twice.

From 130 feet you are probably hitting close to or even over 100 miles per hour. Zowie!
5 posted on 08/10/2003 3:55:02 PM PDT by Pylot
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To: .cnI redruM
"yeah, but he did catch some bitchin' air!"

Yeah, and a huge medical bill.
People who do this dumb stuff don't realize they are going to have to pay the costs of the emergency response teams and that can be in the tens of thousands of dollars.

Ex: Helicopter rescue from Mt. McKinley, Alaska is about $15,000.
6 posted on 08/10/2003 3:55:49 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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To: Chewbacca
Visa, it's every where you want to be totally stupid!
7 posted on 08/10/2003 3:57:27 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: Chewbacca
>>People who do this dumb stuff don't realize they are going to have to pay the costs of the emergency response teams and that can be in the tens of thousands of dollars.<<

Actually, looking at these yahoos and how much free time they have, THEY aren't the ones paying the bills, WE are (the people with a job).

8 posted on 08/10/2003 4:13:35 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Pylot
Neglecting air resistance:

S=1/2at^2 where S=131 feet, a= 32 ft/sec; solving for t we find the total air time is about 2.9 seconds.

V=at, so the velocity at time of impact is 32 f/s^2 * 2.9 sec = 92 feet/sec, or about 62 mph.

Air resistance will slow this a bit, but still faster than most folks would want to hit the water.

Jack
9 posted on 08/10/2003 4:16:14 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: mhking
At 32 ft/sec^2 he needed a minimum of 8.25 seconds to fall 131 feet (distance = (time*acceleration)/2, starting at 0 velocity).

He would have reached terminal velocity after about 5.5 seconds (120 mph).

So he hit the water at 120 mph.

He's very lucky to be alive.

10 posted on 08/10/2003 4:16:24 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: .cnI redruM
131 feet??! That guy is a wack job.

There is a bend on the Current River in Missouri where a bluff overhangs the river and provides a spot maybe 35 feet high to jump from, plus or minus a bit depending on the river level. I have jumped off that spot as a 24 year old college student and as a 42 year old married man. Just high enough to be a bit scary but not high enough to get killed unless you are drunk.

The second time I jumped, the son (11) and daughter(10) of my best friend also jumped, astonishing and impressing the couple of dozen UMR and SMSU students who had stopped on the sand bar to watch the most adventurous members of their float trip make the jump.

They should not forbid jumping because when Father Darwin is calling to dingdongs that cannot tell the difference between adventurous and suicidal, it can generate bad karma to interfere.
11 posted on 08/10/2003 4:23:57 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: mhking
I saw a bone sticking out the leg when I looked at it...

This is one of those subtle warning signs that the EMT courses tell you to look for - paleness, elevated blood pressure, shortness of breath, bone sticking through the leg...

12 posted on 08/10/2003 4:26:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: pierrem15; JackOfVA
Ahh, dueling math dudes. Who's right and who's wrong?
13 posted on 08/10/2003 4:29:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: mhking
After reading about the broken leg, all I can say is...

...mmm, ya think?
14 posted on 08/10/2003 4:32:45 PM PDT by RichInOC (...bet THAT hurt like a mother.)
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To: pierrem15
The organisms in the water may cost that boy his leg yet. You don't give an arm or a leg for cheap thrills.
This generation seems particularly hell-bent on emulating their icons (Vin Deisel in "Triple X", idiots from "Jackass").
Now, back in my day, we KNEW Evil Kneival was an idiot.
15 posted on 08/10/2003 4:34:13 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (This has been a public service announcement.)
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To: savedbygrace
Ahh, dueling math dudes. Who's right and who's wrong?

You ask a great question and demonstrate why I hated math, algebra, and all things related to physics:)

16 posted on 08/10/2003 4:40:18 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: savedbygrace
"Ahh, dueling math dudes. Who's right and who's wrong?"

Jack is exactly right.

17 posted on 08/10/2003 4:50:59 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Pylot
I did 80' one time...broke my tail bone and sprained muscles around my shoulders...otherwise no harm, although I'm glad nothing inside disconnected, I could feel interior movement upon impact. (I was practicing for a 50' drop after a parachute cut-away into a lake as a halftime show at a concert. The differance in impact between 50 and 80 feet is amazing...even when considering the additional acceleration due to the parachute decent at cut-away during the 50' drop.
18 posted on 08/10/2003 4:51:43 PM PDT by gorush
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To: pierrem15
No, you forgot to take the square root.

S = 1/2 a t^2, where t^2 means square of t.

Jack

19 posted on 08/10/2003 4:56:37 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: pierrem15
"He would have reached terminal velocity after about 5.5 seconds (120 mph)."

Wrong...takes 12 sec to reach terminal velocity.

20 posted on 08/10/2003 4:57:46 PM PDT by gorush
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