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To: nwrep
So do you think Arnold is more liberal or more libertarian?
He seems about as "liberal" as our president while considerably more libertarian.If I was a Californian Id'd vote for him over the rest of the field.
7 posted on 08/10/2003 12:34:00 PM PDT by rastus macgill
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To: rastus macgill
Bottom line in CA is that a trained monkey could do a better job than the guy who has been running the place for years. And they just might get a trained monkey in Arnold. But hey, it's still an improvement.
8 posted on 08/10/2003 12:37:08 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: rastus macgill
He seems about as "liberal" as our president while considerably more libertarian.

I see nothing libertarian about this guy. He makes a perfect poster boy for the new republicans.
10 posted on 08/10/2003 12:41:03 PM PDT by steve50 (the main problem with voting is a politican always wins)
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To: rastus macgill
Rastus, please, please don't call Bush a liberal. The man has made more than a dozen decisions which have delighted ardent conservatives like me. If you do not remember these, let me jog your memory:

Appt. of John Ashcroft as AG over a vitriolic battle with Senate Dems, rejection of : Kyoto, ICC, Clinton OSHA rules, abortion funding for Mexico, ABM treaty, and various environmental laws signed via executive order by BJ Clinton.

Further: 3 tax cuts (2 income and 1 Dividend), Elimination of estate taxes, increase in military spending, privatization of 800,000 Federal Govt. positions, set to sign PBA ban, nomination of 100% conservative judges so far for District Courts (none of whom have been confirmed, BTW) and a superb execution of the WOT.

These are conservative positions, bud.

He may have disappointed you wrt spending on education and prescription drugs, but remember, this was in his election platform. You knew he was going to do this because he promised to. So don't be surprised.

With Bush, conservatives will get about 75% of their wishes. With Arnold, its more like 2%.

13 posted on 08/10/2003 12:44:41 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: rastus macgill
I'd vote for Arnold, too, if I still lived there.

Simon sure seems clueless. McClintock is probably the best but it's better to be realistic! Maybe some future time he can run and win as governor...or U.S. Senator!
24 posted on 08/10/2003 1:19:16 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: rastus macgill
>> He seems about as "liberal" as our president <<

"I really consider myself to be VERY liberal on social issues" --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"I actually play someone who is very religious and very much against it. He's very old-fashioned, but I just think cloning is terrific. I love the whole idea of animal cloning... I also approve of human cloning as long as you make sure that it's not going to be used by someone to create his own little army" --Arinold Schwarzekennedy on the differences between him and his characther in The 6th Day
"That is a another thing I will NEVER forgive the Republican party for" -- on the investigatons into the Clinton adminstration illegal activities --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"You know, I have always supported a woman's right to choose" --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"I'm ashamed to be a Republican" -- Arinold Schwarzekennedy, reacting to news that Republicans voted to impeach Clinton
"Gays would make great parents, I don't understand all this anti-gay rhetoric and opposition to gay adoption". --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"Republicans should support sensible gun controls, especially the ban on assault weapons." --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"I support the President, but it bothered me when he lead the United Scares out of' the Kyoto accord" --Arinold Schwarzekennedy

You were saying? I don't recall President Bush coming out in favor of any of that garbage...

>> while considerably more libertarian. <<

"Everything has to be provided for the people." --Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"Gun laws should be stiffer." -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"Californians have overcome the special interests who talk about after-school programs without standing up and adequately funding a statewide program...my hope is, as California, so goes the rest of the nation." -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"We can afford all kinds of different programs that are very important". -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"We want to make sure that the children are not left with without any books. We want to make sure have they have after school programs." -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"We want to make sure the mothers have affordable day care" -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"The truth is, I'm a peace-loving guy, I support gun control. I always say, we need to get the guns off the streets" -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"We want to make sure [the government] gives older folks their care that they need". -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"As Chairman of the PCPFS, [I] have established 80 fully functioning and staffed fitness facilities...the facilities are in high schools, Boys and Girls Clubs, community centers and housing developments. Three are on Indian reservations. We have requests pending for more than 70 additional facilities from government agencies and organizations that have seen current OFK centers in action.... an organization must allocate at least 3,000 square feet for each facility, which must be supervised by qualified staff members and be able to secure operational funding. The value of the equipment funded to date has been estimated at over $5 million" -Arinold Schwarzekennedy
"As governor, I want to ensure that all Californians have not only a job, but a great job, a fantastic job" -Arinold Schwarzekennedy

Try making those kinds of "libertarian" statements at some Ayn Rand fan club or liberty Think Tank, let me know how warm the reception is.

40 posted on 08/10/2003 7:04:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term....without parole.)
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