Schwarzenegger as Soccer Mom

PoliPundit.com ^ | 8/9/03 | PoliPundit

[NYC Republican]

Very interesting analysis.

[RJCogburn]

Interesting, but my bias is for football dads, not soccer moms.

[Princeliberty]

Arnold pushed more big government last year,
he is a fiscal conservative like Wilson,
tax and spend more while calling yourself
a fiscal conservative.

And Wilson is the one who destoryed
the Republican in California.
If Arnold gets he will end up bringing
down more Republican congressmen to defeat
as he expands government.

[GB]

Quite interesting analysis that goes along with something I've been preaching for a while here, that the hard core of TRUE conservatives that post here, who really want to carve and starve the federal nanny state and get government our of our lives ... I include myself in that group, BTW ... are a minority in the American electorate. That there are a lot of folks out there similar to the imaginary person described here who may very well vote Republican more often than not, while also believing pretty much what this imaginary person believes, which is certainly not TRUE conservatism by FR standards.

So what's the answer? The present party system invites compromise including compromise of principles, because there are not enough TRUE conservatives or far leftists to elect someone on their own. Personally, I've always advocated a realignment of the parties along strictly philosophical lines, so that when you cast a vote, there's no doubt as to what the person you're voting for stands for, but would that work presidentially with the Electoral College?

[steve50]

They can stop this "pragmatic libertarian" BS right now. I lean a little small l libertarian myself and this guy is not a libertarian.

The man doesn't think Calif. has strict enough gun laws, that should be a dead giveaway he's no libertarian. He seems like a "progressive compassionate conservative" to me.

[joesnuffy]

He was pregnant and had Danny DeVito's baby in "Junior"
Non the less his politics are a lot like the typical "Soccer Mom"
Pro Abortion
Anti Gun (anti self defense for peons..but not for himself or his family of course)
Pro Taxes
Pro Social Programs
Pro Immigration
Wants to lure business back to CA so he can tax them for social programs
Daycare for everyone
Promises not just good jobs but "Great" jobs for "everyone" (while open to more immigration)
At least we finally have a "Progressive" Republican running..
GW says Ahnode will make a great Gov...
Ahnode may also be able to deliver CAs electoral votes to the Repubs (so who cares what his politics are)

[Always Right]

Democrats should be scared of Arnold.

As should Republicans. Arnold's mushy stances on many issues makes it uncertain on what issues he is gonna champion. He could get a hair up his butt and advance gay marriage or ask for more gun control. I don't mind Arnold being mushy on some of the social issues that I have strong opinions on, as long as he doesn't act on them. But I see Arnold as too much of a wild card who may do some dumb things that are counter to the core values of most Republicans.

[China Clipper]

I think the recall will never happen; the demo-crats will not allow it. Davis will be allowed to "test" the wind, however when it is apparent he will NOT prevail, he ultimately will be told to "fall on his sword" and Bustamante will take his place when Davis resigns.

game over

[shempy]

It doesn't matter if Davis resigns. The recall election will happen no matter what. That is how the law is written.

[sd-joe]

>>"game over"<<

You obviously don't know California law. If Davis resigns, the recall election goes ahead anyway. Bustamante will be acting Gov ONLY until the election is held, then whoever wins the election becomes Gov.

[Always Right]

That is how the law is written.

Tell that to the Florida and New Jersey Supreme Courts who love to re-write clearly written laws based on their feelings. So far California Supremes have not stooped to the lowest of low levels reached by those two courts.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Schwarzenegger is about equal to Joe Lieberman or Arlen Specter. That's the better analogy.

[luckystarmom]

Recall is on even if Davis resigns. Once the recall is certified, it's on.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

He's probably the best we can hope for Kalifornia right now.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

It would be hard to beat the FL SC to the bottom of the barrel. I can tell you that the 9th Circuit in SF is the worst of the Federal courts though. But, I guess that's obvoius.

[afz400]

Schwarzenegger is a Trojan horse if you ask me. What makes anyone think he would be of any help to Bush if he becomes governor? Look what family he married into if you want to see the real Arnold.

[AAABEST]

Let's see:

1. Pro-death.
2. Self Proclaimed Environmentalist.
3. Viewed those who impeached Klinton with contempt.
4. Thinks the answer to Californias problems are more "programs".
5. Supports gay rights.
6. Has the intelligence of a damn cabbage.

Yeah Ahhnold is just what California needs. That is if you're like me and hope it - along with all of it's liberals from both parties - falls into the Pacific where it belongs.

[searchandrecovery]

Arnold Schwarzenegger is... a Soccer Mom!

More like a Soccor Mom on steroids.

[Common Tator]

Personally, I've always advocated a realignment of the parties along strictly philosophical lines, so that when you cast a vote, there's no doubt as to what the person you're voting for stands for, but would that work presidentially with the Electoral College?

The result of philosophical alignment is apparent. We have it and as a result nothing can ever get through the Senate. At least 40 senators will always be in the minority. They will filbuster everything the majority wants to do. When a party is part liberal and part conservative filibusters do not work very well. People always jump ship. The minority DINOs or RINOs always have more reason to jump than the DINOs and RINOs in the majority.

Right now it is the united Democrats filibustering. But if the Democrats get control of the senate and the presidency the Republicans will fillibuster. The result is a government that can do nothing... not even defend itself.

The Democrats were very effective from 1932 until 1968. The Demoratic party back then was made up of liberal northerners and southern conservatives. The northern liberal Democrats under FDR and LBJ used the party loyalty of the conservative southern Democrats to enact the new deal and the great society.

When NIXON did the realignment strategy you espouse, the right came to power but rolled back next to nothing the left had done with a mixes ideology democratic party. Now 35 years later, the leftist agendas of FDR and LBJ have become the centrist norm. And what used to be the right is now expanding on the old leftist agendas.

In california a traditional Old Europe Socialist emigrant is about to take over the Republican party in the most populus state in the nation. He will make it in his image.

Realignment does your homework on voting for you but it also allows the left and the socialist center to rule the United States no matter which party wins.

[Jim Noble]

I live as far from California as possible (except for Maine, which is 13 miles away).

I don't know anything about the personalities (except, of course, The Governator).

But, for the sake of God, can't you California Republicans PICK ONE GUY AND SUPPORT HIM?