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Schwarzenegger as Soccer Mom
PoliPundit.com ^ | 8/9/03 | PoliPundit

Posted on 08/09/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT by NYC Republican

No one seems to have a phrase to describe Arnold's politics. Is he a "conservative," a "moderate," a "liberal" or a "pragmatic libertarian?"

None of the above. Arnold Schwarzenegger is... a Soccer Mom!

Your prototypical Soccer Mom isn't a hate-the-greedy-corporations Democrat. Heck, her husband is probably a middle manager at Procter & Gamble. She's a "fiscal conservative," in the sense that she doesn't want more taxes and regulation. She doesn't like affirmative action either, since it goes against her sense of fairness and threatens her childrens' future.

On the other hand, she doesn't want to be seen as a meanie. She thinks Republicans are too hard-edged on some issues. She wishes they were more "tolerant" of minority groups like gays and blacks. She's pro-choice, although she doesn't want abortion to be a widespread practice. She is, of course, an "environmentalist." And she's not averse to Big Government programs like Medicare and Social Security. An easy way to win her vote is to claim that some big-spending entitlement is "for the children." She doesn't see why ordinary people need assault rifles, but she can see why pilots should have pistols.

Now look at Arnold's stated beliefs - vague as they are - and see how they dovetail nicely with Soccer Mom values. When he comes out with detailed policy prescriptions, I bet they'll reflect Soccer Mom values too.

Democrats should be scared of Arnold. He has a massive advantage when it comes to the male vote. If he can appeal to Soccer Moms, he can also steal away women voters who ordinarily provide Democrats with their margin of victory


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: recall; schwarzenegger; soccermom
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Very interesting analysis.
1 posted on 08/09/2003 7:03:41 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Interesting, but my bias is for football dads, not soccer moms.
2 posted on 08/09/2003 7:05:52 AM PDT by RJCogburn ("I need a good judge."..............Lucky Ned Pepper)
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To: NYC Republican
Arnold pushed more big government last year,
he is a fiscal conservative like Wilson,
tax and spend more while calling yourself
a fiscal conservative.

And Wilson is the one who destoryed
the Republican in California.
If Arnold gets he will end up bringing
down more Republican congressmen to defeat
as he expands government.
3 posted on 08/09/2003 7:07:43 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: NYC Republican
Quite interesting analysis that goes along with something I've been preaching for a while here, that the hard core of TRUE conservatives that post here, who really want to carve and starve the federal nanny state and get government our of our lives ... I include myself in that group, BTW ... are a minority in the American electorate. That there are a lot of folks out there similar to the imaginary person described here who may very well vote Republican more often than not, while also believing pretty much what this imaginary person believes, which is certainly not TRUE conservatism by FR standards.

So what's the answer? The present party system invites compromise including compromise of principles, because there are not enough TRUE conservatives or far leftists to elect someone on their own. Personally, I've always advocated a realignment of the parties along strictly philosophical lines, so that when you cast a vote, there's no doubt as to what the person you're voting for stands for, but would that work presidentially with the Electoral College?

4 posted on 08/09/2003 7:15:22 AM PDT by GB
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To: NYC Republican
They can stop this "pragmatic libertarian" BS right now. I lean a little small l libertarian myself and this guy is not a libertarian.

The man doesn't think Calif. has strict enough gun laws, that should be a dead giveaway he's no libertarian. He seems like a "progressive compassionate conservative" to me.
5 posted on 08/09/2003 7:15:50 AM PDT by steve50 (the main problem with voting is a politican always wins)
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To: NYC Republican
He was pregnant and had Danny DeVito's baby in "Junior"
Non the less his politics are a lot like the typical "Soccer Mom"
Pro Abortion
Anti Gun (anti self defense for peons..but not for himself or his family of course)
Pro Taxes
Pro Social Programs
Pro Immigration
Wants to lure business back to CA so he can tax them for social programs
Daycare for everyone
Promises not just good jobs but "Great" jobs for "everyone" (while open to more immigration)
At least we finally have a "Progressive" Republican running..
GW says Ahnode will make a great Gov...
Ahnode may also be able to deliver CAs electoral votes to the Repubs (so who cares what his politics are)
6 posted on 08/09/2003 7:16:02 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: NYC Republican
Democrats should be scared of Arnold.

As should Republicans. Arnold's mushy stances on many issues makes it uncertain on what issues he is gonna champion. He could get a hair up his butt and advance gay marriage or ask for more gun control. I don't mind Arnold being mushy on some of the social issues that I have strong opinions on, as long as he doesn't act on them. But I see Arnold as too much of a wild card who may do some dumb things that are counter to the core values of most Republicans.

7 posted on 08/09/2003 7:17:55 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
I think the recall will never happen; the demo-crats will not allow it. Davis will be allowed to "test" the wind, however when it is apparent he will NOT prevail, he ultimately will be told to "fall on his sword" and Bustamante will take his place when Davis resigns.

game over

8 posted on 08/09/2003 7:24:28 AM PDT by China Clipper
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To: China Clipper
It doesn't matter if Davis resigns. The recall election will happen no matter what. That is how the law is written.
9 posted on 08/09/2003 7:28:56 AM PDT by shempy (tick tock said the clock)
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To: China Clipper
>>"game over"<<

You obviously don't know California law. If Davis resigns, the recall election goes ahead anyway. Bustamante will be acting Gov ONLY until the election is held, then whoever wins the election becomes Gov.


10 posted on 08/09/2003 7:29:35 AM PDT by sd-joe
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To: shempy
That is how the law is written.

Tell that to the Florida and New Jersey Supreme Courts who love to re-write clearly written laws based on their feelings. So far California Supremes have not stooped to the lowest of low levels reached by those two courts.

11 posted on 08/09/2003 7:39:06 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: NYC Republican
Schwarzenegger is about equal to Joe Lieberman or Arlen Specter. That's the better analogy.
12 posted on 08/09/2003 8:00:40 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Willie Green for President...)
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To: China Clipper
Recall is on even if Davis resigns. Once the recall is certified, it's on.
13 posted on 08/09/2003 8:06:46 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: steve50
He's probably the best we can hope for Kalifornia right now.
14 posted on 08/09/2003 8:13:51 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Always Right
It would be hard to beat the FL SC to the bottom of the barrel. I can tell you that the 9th Circuit in SF is the worst of the Federal courts though. But, I guess that's obvoius.
15 posted on 08/09/2003 8:15:14 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Schwarzenegger is a Trojan horse if you ask me. What makes anyone think he would be of any help to Bush if he becomes governor? Look what family he married into if you want to see the real Arnold.
16 posted on 08/09/2003 8:17:08 AM PDT by afz400
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To: NYC Republican
Let's see:

1. Pro-death.
2. Self Proclaimed Environmentalist.
3. Viewed those who impeached Klinton with contempt.
4. Thinks the answer to Californias problems are more "programs".
5. Supports gay rights.
6. Has the intelligence of a damn cabbage.

Yeah Ahhnold is just what California needs. That is if you're like me and hope it - along with all of it's liberals from both parties - falls into the Pacific where it belongs.

17 posted on 08/09/2003 8:25:42 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: NYC Republican
Arnold Schwarzenegger is... a Soccer Mom!

More like a Soccor Mom on steroids.

18 posted on 08/09/2003 8:29:47 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: GB
Personally, I've always advocated a realignment of the parties along strictly philosophical lines, so that when you cast a vote, there's no doubt as to what the person you're voting for stands for, but would that work presidentially with the Electoral College?

The result of philosophical alignment is apparent. We have it and as a result nothing can ever get through the Senate. At least 40 senators will always be in the minority. They will filbuster everything the majority wants to do. When a party is part liberal and part conservative filibusters do not work very well. People always jump ship. The minority DINOs or RINOs always have more reason to jump than the DINOs and RINOs in the majority.

Right now it is the united Democrats filibustering. But if the Democrats get control of the senate and the presidency the Republicans will fillibuster. The result is a government that can do nothing... not even defend itself.

The Democrats were very effective from 1932 until 1968. The Demoratic party back then was made up of liberal northerners and southern conservatives. The northern liberal Democrats under FDR and LBJ used the party loyalty of the conservative southern Democrats to enact the new deal and the great society.

When NIXON did the realignment strategy you espouse, the right came to power but rolled back next to nothing the left had done with a mixes ideology democratic party. Now 35 years later, the leftist agendas of FDR and LBJ have become the centrist norm. And what used to be the right is now expanding on the old leftist agendas.

In california a traditional Old Europe Socialist emigrant is about to take over the Republican party in the most populus state in the nation. He will make it in his image.

Realignment does your homework on voting for you but it also allows the left and the socialist center to rule the United States no matter which party wins.

19 posted on 08/09/2003 8:32:21 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: NYC Republican
I live as far from California as possible (except for Maine, which is 13 miles away).

I don't know anything about the personalities (except, of course, The Governator).

But, for the sake of God, can't you California Republicans PICK ONE GUY AND SUPPORT HIM?

20 posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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