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Mark Steyn: Anglicans seem to take a sacrament as whatever turns you on
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 08/09/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/08/2003 4:26:45 PM PDT by Pokey78

Because I'm an adopted New Hampshirite, people keep asking me what I think about The Gay Bishop. Once upon a time, the most famous symbol of Granite State manhood was the Old Man Of The Mountain, the Great Stone Face, whose profile God and nature had etched on to the cliffs high above Franconia Notch in the White Mountains. But, after centuries of keeping a watchful eye on us, he came crashing down in an almighty rock slide a couple of months back.

So now the most celebrated symbol of Granite State manhood is the Great Gay Face, the Reverend Gene Robinson. And, although I'm feeling a little gayed out these days, since folks insist on pressing me, let me say a couple of things about the Episcopal Church's and the Anglican Communion's first gay bishop. And by gay, I don't mean one of those fainthearted CofE "celibate gays" like poor doomed Jeffrey John. Personally, I thought the much touted celibacy of Canon John and his friend had a whiff of the old "but I didn't inhale" about it: as my colleague Barbara Amiel summarised Clinton's defence in the Monica business, "But I didn't impale."

By contrast, Canon Robinson, a proudly "practising" gay, decided to shoot for the whole enchilada - daring the dithering nellies of his Church to take not one small tentative first step but a giant leap for mankind. He had the courage of his concupiscence, and he has been rewarded for it. True, he had to endure a slight delay while the bishops hastily investigated some last-minute complaints about inappropriate touching and links to pornographic websites. But those were soon dismissed and the bishop was elected, and, as he pointed out, this wasn't the first two-day dramatic turnaround the Church has known: "God has once again brought an Easter out of Good Friday."

Got that? If he's not the Second Coming, he's the next best thing. As the Washington Post's Caryle Murphy reported on Thursday, "Yesterday's gospel reading on the Transfiguration of Jesus was about the mysterious transformation of Christ that caused such fear and trembling, but also joy, in his believers. For the group attending the noontime Eucharist service at St John's Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, the reading could not have been more pertinent." Yes, indeed. For, just like Christ, Bishop Robinson causes fear and trembling but also joy in his believers.

In an odd way, the Post is on to something. The peculiar obsession of the dying Anglican churches of Britain, America and Canada with homosexuality is a kind of transformation. Having lost the masses, the Church has found a niche demographic and it's desperately trying to re-package its old inventory. And, if in their need to endow their gay fetish with spiritual purpose, they sound a little loopy, bear with 'em. The Bishop of Maryland, for example, made a painful attempt to square the awkward Biblical strictures on homosexuality with Bishop Robinson's vigorous sex life. His line is that God isn't against gay sex per se, just gay sex practised by heterosexual men. Really.

"We might say about the Sodom passage," he elaborated, "that it is not really about a group of gay men behaving badly, but a group of heterosexual men behaving atrociously." Similarly, in Romans, Paul isn't objecting to homosexual men having sex with each other, just heterosexual men having sex with each other. Who knew? So God's cool with practising straights, He's cool with practising gays; it's just bi-guys He's got a problem with. Or have I misunderstood the bishop's argument?

Needless to say, Bishop Robinson had no time for such pretzel logic. He cut to the chase. "I believe that God gave us the gift of sexuality so that we might express with our bodies the love that's in our hearts," he announced to his fellow bishops. "I just need to tell you that I experience that with my partner. In the time that we have, I can't go into all the theology around it, but what I can tell you is that in my relationship with my partner, I am able to express the deep love that's in my heart, and in his unfailing and unquestioning love of me, I experience just a little bit of the kind of never-ending, never-failing love that God has for me. So it's sacramental for me."

The bishop would seem to be comparing gay sex not with anything so footling as the Sacrament of Marriage, but with the Anglican Church's two "Sacraments ordained of Christ" - that's to say, Baptism and the Lord's Supper, through which one experiences "God's good will towards us" and "by which He doth work invisibly in us". If Bishop Robinson feels God working invisibly in him during gay sex, good luck to him. In older times, he and his partner would have set up their own church founded on the principle thereof. But back then the Anglican Church still understood itself to be part of the Kingdom of God, not a federation of self-esteeming cantons where a sacrament is whatever turns you on. Bishop Robinson got the Church to endorse not just his gayness but his narcissism.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: episcopal; fallout; homosexualbishop; marksteyn; marksteynlist; steyn
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To: Pokey78
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41 posted on 08/08/2003 7:01:49 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Pokey78
The peculiar obsession of the dying Anglican churches of Britain, America and Canada with homosexuality

Perhaps it's "our" fault for choice of terminology, but none (insofar as I know) of the churches in the U.S. who bear the name "Anglican" have an "obsession with" homosexuality -- other than being against the practice thereof.

42 posted on 08/08/2003 7:24:39 PM PDT by Eala
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To: Pokey78
Bump.
43 posted on 08/08/2003 7:40:45 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: ladylib
That question was excellent!!
44 posted on 08/08/2003 7:42:16 PM PDT by AUsome Joy (Yahoo!! Moving out of Jersey, heading South!!! War Eagle!!!)
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To: onedoug
Thanks for link to that article. It is a really good one. It goes along with a book I am reading called "Under the Influence" by Alvin J. Schmidt. It explains how Christianity transformed society. The book tells what life was like in the Greek and Roman world before Christianity and how those who followed Jesus had a higher value for human life and how their beliefs changed the world around them and changed how we live today. This is one reason why the attack on Judeo-Christian values is so dangerous. Without these values, society is degraded.
45 posted on 08/08/2003 8:11:22 PM PDT by AUsome Joy (Yahoo!! Moving out of Jersey, heading South!!! War Eagle!!!)
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To: Pokey78; ahadams2
Ping
46 posted on 08/08/2003 8:34:23 PM PDT by Ryle
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To: onedoug
Good link!
47 posted on 08/08/2003 8:35:05 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: onedoug
Excellent link!
48 posted on 08/08/2003 9:31:33 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Deb
We are doomed.

Na, we arn't. They are, but they don't want to hear it. To them saying "don't put that gun in your mouth, it's loaded", is hate speech.

50 posted on 08/09/2003 12:19:21 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: dts32041
No, it's one of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries.
51 posted on 08/09/2003 4:28:21 AM PDT by Huck
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To: BibChr
Ping....
52 posted on 08/09/2003 4:43:16 AM PDT by Artist
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To: Huck
"Skip a bit, Brother Ambrose."


53 posted on 08/09/2003 4:49:07 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Three, sir!
54 posted on 08/09/2003 4:59:25 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Deb
The damage these people have done to the coming generations is disturbing.

I read not long ago by a 19th century philospher, Alex Touqueville, that religion in the future will either become more orthodox, or bend its beliefs around that of societal norms.

I think we just saw the latter taking place.

How do these people live with themselves?

55 posted on 08/09/2003 5:16:47 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Huck
"What are you doing in England?..."
56 posted on 08/09/2003 5:22:14 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Petronski
I think the god he worships has one big brown eye.

Bleeaach!

PLEASE!

Think of the Children!

57 posted on 08/09/2003 6:48:44 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: vikingcelt
Yes I read that one too ....just dropped the 'malignant' for the post!
58 posted on 08/09/2003 7:05:40 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: rockprof
Thank you for posting this quote. It's a long time since I've read Mere Christianity. I had forgotten how well the simple words and clear thinking of C.S. Lewis captured and explained the spiritual side of life.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, now up FR, "Sixteen Little Words."

59 posted on 08/09/2003 9:50:55 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Petronski
It's a dead parrot, not a dead cat. Because my wife and I are both inveterate Python heads, my 10-year-old step-daughter has the dead parrot routine memorized. Her classmates look at her like she has two heads, but every virtue has its drawbacks. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

60 posted on 08/09/2003 9:59:53 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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