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1 posted on 08/08/2003 4:51:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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"I hope we can use the time between now and then to reflect, to pray, to consult and to take counsel," the archbishop added.

Pet pet pet - nice conservatives, pet pet pet, no schism here.
2 posted on 08/08/2003 4:57:50 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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There is but one choice here

By whatever rules the Anglican church governs itself, now is the time to cut the cancer out.

3 posted on 08/08/2003 4:59:16 AM PDT by JZoback (Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
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"I hope that in our deliberations we will find that there are ways forward in this situation which can preserve our respect for one another and for the bonds that unite us," Williams said in a statement issued by his office.

Reading between the lines of Williams' statement, I don't find "defrock the gay bishop" anywhere.

I did find "put some ice on it", though.

4 posted on 08/08/2003 4:59:51 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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"I hope that in our deliberations we will find that there are ways forward in this situation which can preserve our respect for one another and for the bonds that unite us,"

If you don't root out the sickness, bonds that unite us. is apt to take on a whole new meaning...

8 posted on 08/08/2003 5:24:58 AM PDT by trebb
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RIP!

I think many Episcopalians are waiting to see what is said in church this Sunday. It think most will hear Rectors trying to take the middle ground and appease both sides. I know there are many who will be angry with this... Some I know are already saying they are ready to leave. Many will look to the Catholic and Lutheran churches.
13 posted on 08/08/2003 5:59:27 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
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Can someone explain to me the relationship between the Anglican, Lutheran, and Episcopal churches? I find this topic (the homo bishop) interesting, but I get lost in the details. Thanks.
22 posted on 08/08/2003 6:26:03 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:39:04 EDT
From: David Virtue DVirtue236@AOL.COM
Subject: A CALL TO PROTEST

A CALL TO PROTEST

The Episcopal Church has allowed itself to be a "door mat" in the overall scheme of the homosexual community. It was reported many years ago that the ultimate goal of the homosexual planners in America was to have their lifestyle legislated by our Congress in Washington. To accomplish this goal, one of the logical steps that needed to be taken was approval, first, by the mainline Christian churches. Obviously the most vulnerable target appeared to be the Episcopal Church, with all of its liberal views.

It is sad to realize that this scheme has been cleverly executed. Future Federal legislation is not too far away, unless the conservative voice of America is heard.

Episcopalians can take action by BOYCOTTING the pews, this Sunday. A strong response, such as this, will give encouragement to others who may have the same views. The national news services should give this wide publicity.

END

From Virtuosity

24 posted on 08/08/2003 6:38:10 AM PDT by Fifth Business
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I'm going to wear a black moruning armband every Sunday from now on in church..
28 posted on 08/08/2003 6:51:25 AM PDT by ken5050
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"I hope that...we...can preserve our respect for one another and for the bonds that unite us,"

I hope that I never find myself united with those that openly define themselves as self determined unrepentant serial sinners. Though, I certainly respect the power of God to heal the penitent. And, if Robinson would see the light, go forth and sin no more it would be a great day.

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

But, what shall we see next from the abominable bishop?
Shall he open a convent for practicing prostitute nuns?
39 posted on 08/08/2003 7:37:44 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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The Episcopal Church is dead...

Quit poking it with a stick and leave it to RIP
44 posted on 08/08/2003 8:13:11 AM PDT by mmartins
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"I hope that in our deliberations we will find that there are ways forward in this situation which can preserve our respect for one another and for the bonds that unite us," Williams said

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:
for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
and what communion hath light with darkness?
II Corinthians 6:14


47 posted on 08/08/2003 8:17:19 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: kattracks; Dataman; rhema
"I hope we can use the time between now and then to reflect, to pray, to consult and to take counsel," the archbishop added

Right.

Anything but crack open a Bible, read, reflect, and obey.

That would be cheating.

Dan
What Is Biblical Christianity?

52 posted on 08/08/2003 8:19:32 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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Wouldn't it just be a kicker if the CONSERVATIVE Episcopalians in this country left the American group and joined the AFRICAN Episcopal group? I think that would make the libs' heads spin!
60 posted on 08/08/2003 8:43:36 AM PDT by SuziQ
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The New Age Church, the prophasized apostate, with a doctrine based on mans pleasure.

"Blessed are those who read aloud or hear the words of this prophacy and observe the things written in it , for the appointed time is near.
Comfort one another with these words."

68 posted on 08/08/2003 9:23:29 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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The archbishop of Canterbury ..IS A Lefty Liberal

I bet African and Asian Anglicans will split from the main Church....

83 posted on 08/08/2003 9:53:52 AM PDT by KQQL (^@__*^)
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Isn't that just special. The Anglican church was created by King Henry VIII because the Vactican would not let him divorce his wife with an anullment. So Henry set up his own pope and split the Church of England from the Roman Chatholic Church, dicorved his wife and than murdered her. Now this same Epischapol/Anglican church allows gay priests and now a gay bishop. Anarchy created the Anglican church with a corrupt leader and the English cardninals did not stand up to defend the faith under fear from English monarchs. This leaderless church now openly goes against the gospel and allows sinful and evil men to run their church.

This gay bishop is still married in the eyes of God. He left his wife to follow his sinful and lustful and immoral passions to live as a homosexual and remained a priest in the Anglican church and is now ordained as a bishop? What is wrong with these people? It is the work of satan to allow this under the guise of tolerance of sin and lust. I pray that Michael the arch Angel helps and imploys his sword to cut off and separate the corrupt members of this church from the body of Christ and let this unfruitful and infected vine wither and die. I am sure the Catholic church would gladly accept the faithful Anglicans into the fold again to rejoin the unviversal Church of Christ.

103 posted on 08/08/2003 10:28:54 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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Anglican church leader to summon bishops

They may summon the Bishops

but all they'll get is a bunch of queens

138 posted on 08/08/2003 11:44:55 AM PDT by putupon (Send your Credit Card # w/ exp. date to PO Box BR-549 Trailer, AR & good fortune will follow you)
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And this just in from american anglican.org:

AAC NEWS ALERT: August 8, 2003

-- AAC answers the question: "What do I now?"

-- Statement from Archbishop Bernard Malango, Central Africa (Primate)

-- Statement from Archbishop Greg Venables, Southern Cone (Primate)

==================================================================== -- AAC answers the question: "What do I do now?"

The AAC has just published an important document answering the question "What do I do now?" after the grevious decision of the Episcopal Church to depart from the historic Christian faith.

To read the document, please visit: http://www.aplacetostand.org/dspnews.cfm?id=70

URGENT: PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO AS MANY OF YOUR EPISCOPALIAN FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AS YOU CAN!

==================================================================== -- Statement from Archbishop Bernard Malango, Central Africa (Primate) http://www.aplacetostand.org/dspnews.cfm?id=71

-- Statement from Archbishop Greg Venables, Southern Cone (Primate) http://www.aplacetostand.org/dspnews.cfm?id=73

American Anglican Council's A Place to Stand General Convention 2003

8/08/03

AAC Answers the Question: What do I do now?"

What just happened?

1. The Episcopal Church has departed from Biblical truth, from the historic teaching of the Christian faith and from the near universal consensus of the Christian Church around the world.

2. In the words of the Primate of Kenya, the Episcopal Church has "kicked itself out of the [Anglican] Communion."

3. In the words of the Primate of Nigeria, the 43 bishops who voted no on Gene Robinson "have refused to bow their knees to baal."

4. The Archbishop of Canterbury has called an emergency meeting of the Primates for October 15-16, 2003, the first such meeting in the history of the Anglican Communion.

What do we do next?

1. Rejoice... in all circumstances. God is still on the throne.

2. Repent... for our participation in our Church's sins. Continue in a spirit of repentance, not arrogance, in the days ahead.

3. Forgive... as Jesus did, "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing."

4. Pray... for God's grace to guide and sustain us.

5. Love... those who consider themselves to be homosexual, sharing the transforming power of God.

6. Reject... the unbiblical, unconstitutional actions of General Convention. Repudiate them, disassociate yourself from them. Do this personally, as a parish, as a diocese. Communicate with your rector, your bishop (even those bishops who share your views; they need to be supported!), the Presiding Bishop (815 Second Ave., New York, NY 10017), and the Archbishop of Canterbury (Lambeth Palace, London SE1 7JU, England). Copy the American Anglican Council (1110 Vermont Ave., NW Suite 1180 Washington, DC 20005. lhuntington@americananglican.org).

7. Reach out... to those who are lonely and isolated in unsupportive parishes or dioceses, and those who share our concerns but are not at General Convention; they are likely confused about what happened, unaware of the strength of our coalition, and uninformed about the Primates, the Plano meeting, etc.

8. Redirect... money from structures which support these actions (parish, diocese, national church), and give to parishes, dioceses, organizations and mission agencies which are upholding mainstream Anglicanism, such as the AAC, FiFNA, and Ekklesia.

Do's and Don'ts

1. Do NOT say you are leaving the Episcopal Church.

2. Do NOT say you are breaking Communion with your bishop.

3. DO say you are NOT leaving the Anglican Communion.

4. Do NOT sue for your property or take unilateral action.

5. DO hold on until Plano.

6. DO give the orthodox bishops and archbishops six months to achieve a framework for dramatic realignment.

What is Plano and what will happen there?

1. It is a gathering of bishops, clergy and lay leaders who embrace biblical faith and teaching and who reject the actions of General Convention, to be held October 7-9, 2003 at Christ Church, Plano, Texas.

2. We will pray, worship, study the Word and preach the Gospel.

3. We will hear reports on actions of specially-convened diocesan conventions.

4. We will prepare a detailed petition and proposal for the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Primates, who will meet October 15-16, 2003

5. We will offer training and specific help with canonical, legal and financial issues.

6. We will build relationships and organize our network.

140 posted on 08/08/2003 11:52:27 AM PDT by Martin Tell
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It seems that this gay bishop is arrogant and self-centered beyond belief. If he was truly concerned about his beloved church, why did he not make the needed sacrifice? And NOT push this issue...
160 posted on 08/08/2003 4:13:54 PM PDT by Libertina
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"I hope that in our deliberations we will find that there are ways forward in this situation which can preserve our respect for one another and for the bonds that unite us," ....

This one can't be soft-soaped away, in a typical "mainline" mis-leader fashion. It's a choice between catholic, apostolic Christianity and apostasy, pure and simple!!!!

This summons from the Archbishop of Canterbury, however, was expected, and indeed asked for by the American Anglican Council. But I hope that the date for the meeting in England was not selected to pre-empt the AAC meeting in Texas to perhaps form a new orthodox Anglican entity. If all that happns in Canterbury is "soft-soap", that Texas meeting will be needed more than ever.

165 posted on 08/08/2003 4:24:26 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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