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Election of Gay Bishop Prompts Walkout
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 6 August 2003 | Rachel Zoll

Posted on 08/06/2003 1:31:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot

MINNEAPOLIS - Episcopal conservatives protested the election of the denomination's first openly gay bishop by walking off the floor of their national legislative meeting Wednesday as they called on Anglican leaders worldwide to intervene in what they called a "pastoral emergency."

Some delegates turned in their convention credentials and left for home. Others refused to attend voting sessions. Another group dropped to their knees and prayed as one of their leaders denounced the confirmation of the Rev. V. Gene Robinson.

Robinson was confirmed Tuesday after he was cleared of last-minute misconduct allegations that threatened to delay the vote.

The number of protesters Wednesday was unclear. Donald Armstrong, who turned in his credentials, said about 100 people out of more than 800 clergy and laity in the House of Deputies planned to do the same, but far less than that number could be seen leaving the session.

Although conservatives and like-minded overseas bishops have said confirming Robinson would make them consider breaking away from the denomination, the protesters Wednesday insisted they remained within the Episcopal Church and were simply protesting the General Convention vote.

In an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press, Robinson said he hoped his critics would not leave the church, though he disagrees with their view that gay sex violates Scripture.

"I think they're wrong about this," he said. "I think they'll come to know that they are wrong, in this life or the next one."

But Robinson said he values diversity within Anglicanism and hoped his critics will, too.

Bishop Geralyn Wolf of Rhode Island, who voted for Robinson, cautioned against interpreting the protests as a sign that a split in the church is imminent.

"Patient waiting is essential without jumping to any conclusions about who will and who will not remain in the Episcopal Church," Wolf said.

Bishop Stephen Jecko of Florida, a conservative who opposed Robinson, refused to participate in the House of Bishops session Wednesday. He said one of his 77 parishes told him that they will withhold their donation to the diocese because part of the money goes to the national church.

"My main priority now is to keep my diocese together," Jecko said.

After Tuesday's 62-45 vote, more than a dozen conservative bishops walked to the podium of the House of Bishops, surrounding Pittsburgh Bishop Robert Duncan, who read a statement saying he and the others felt "grief too deep for words."

Some convention delegates who opposed Robinson left the meeting in tears.

"This body willfully confirming the election of a person sexually active outside of holy matrimony has departed from the historic faith and order of the Church of Jesus Christ," Duncan said. "This body has divided itself from millions of Anglican Christians around the world."

The Episcopal Church, with 2.3 million members, is the U.S. branch of the 77 million-member global Anglican Communion. The American Anglican Council, which represents conservative Episcopalians, planned a meeting in Plano, Texas, in October to decide their next move.

Duncan called on the bishops of the Anglican Communion and Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, head of the communion, to intervene in "the pastoral emergency that has overtaken us."

"May God have mercy on his church," Duncan said. Eighteen other bishops signed his statement.

The leader of the Anglican Church of West Malaysia, Bishop Lim Cheng Ean, said Asia's bishops might consider cutting their ties with the U.S. church because of Robinson's appointment. But the head of Australia's Anglican Church, Primate Peter Carnley, considered a liberal, said he didn't think it would be "a communion-breaking issue."

Williams issued a statement saying it was too soon to gauge the impact and appealing to opponents not to react rashly.

"It is my hope that the church in America and the rest of the Anglican Communion will have the opportunity to consider this development before significant and irrevocable decisions are made in response," he said.

Gay rights advocates, meanwhile, claimed Robinson's confirmation as a major victory. Robinson said he attended a gathering of gay Episcopalians Tuesday night where some were in tears, saying their gay children had called to tell them they would now return to the church.

"I was blown away for what this meant to those who were gathered there," Robinson told the AP.

Later this week, the Episcopal convention is expected to consider a measure on drafting a same-sex blessing ceremony.

The church has been debating the role of gays for decades. In 1998, a worldwide meeting of Anglican leaders approved a resolution calling gay sex "incompatible with Scripture," but the denomination has no official rules — either for or against — ordaining gays.

The confirmation of Robinson, a 56-year-old divorced father of two, was nearly derailed by allegations that surfaced at the last minute.

David Lewis of Manchester, Vt., e-mailed several bishops, saying Robinson had inappropriately touched him. Bishop Gordon Scruton, who investigated the claim, said Robinson briefly put his hand on the man's back and arm while engaged in a conversation at a church meeting in public view.

Robinson, who helped write church procedures for dealing with such allegations, has apologized if he made Lewis feel uncomfortable, and Lewis said he did not want to file a formal complaint.

The other concern was an indirect link from the Web site of an outreach group for gay and bisexual youth that Robinson helped found. Scruton said the clergyman ended his association with the organization in 1998 and "was not aware that the organization has a Web site until this convention."

If conservatives do decide to break away, it was unclear what that would mean for the Episcopal Church. Some parishes could split from their dioceses and refuse to recognize clergy who support homosexuality, but stop short of a complete separation.

A full schism would trigger, among other things, bitter fights over parish assets and undercut the global influence of the U.S. church.

Bishops from Africa, Asia and Latin America, representing more than a third of Anglican Communion members worldwide, severed relations this year with a diocese that authorizes same-sex blessings — the Diocese of New Westminster, based in Vancouver, British Columbia.


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Let the backlash begin....
1 posted on 08/06/2003 1:31:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Coming to your church soon.....
2 posted on 08/06/2003 1:33:29 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Remember the Blue Ridge Corporation!!!! Damn the torpedoes and SEC, full speed ahead!)
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To: SkyPilot
Those who believe in Our Lord and Savior, will have to
distance themselves from this pit of newly formed vipers.

Gay lifestyles are not accepted in the Old or New Testaments.

Ops4 God BLess America!
3 posted on 08/06/2003 1:34:13 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: SkyPilot
Shameful that a man would want to cause such pain and problems in his own church just to satisfy his own ego.
4 posted on 08/06/2003 1:36:21 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: SkyPilot
I don't blame them for walking out. Practicing homosexuality is a sin. If this guy practices it, he has no business being made a priest, muchless a bishop. What a sham!
5 posted on 08/06/2003 1:38:00 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Beck_isright
Unfortunately, the other denominations are writing their own lavender statements. One of the biggest is probably going to follow the example of the Episcopals in 2005.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 1:38:46 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Join the Episcopals and I will make thee a fisher of boys.)
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To: SkyPilot
Say goodbye to the financial backers of the church - the Conservatives - the ones who donate money.
7 posted on 08/06/2003 1:39:27 PM PDT by scarab9
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To: Clara Lou
Every believing deputy and bishop should just go home. They're wasting their time at the convention.

Better yet, book an alternate hotel and hold a counter convention.

8 posted on 08/06/2003 1:39:34 PM PDT by Credo
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To: ladtx
Yes, but how do you shame the shameless?
9 posted on 08/06/2003 1:39:35 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
This queer robinson is truly a harlot, a slut. He is letting his ambition wreck a denomiation. What a whore.
10 posted on 08/06/2003 1:40:58 PM PDT by realpatriot
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To: All
There has been a long and often close relationship between
the Anglican and Catholic Churches. In certain situations
there remains a mutual recognition of the validity of key
doctrines, liturgies, and practices. And the Catholic
Church continues to hold the faith and moral teachings as
taught by the Apostles.

I understand that there is also an Anglican Use liturgy
within the Catholic Church, wherein the Book of Common Prayer
(with minor updates) is used for the Mass. So there is no need
to lose the liturgy Anglicans are familiar with.
This Mass is valid for all Catholics as well.

Resources for those interested in the Catholic faith:

Catholic Answers
www.catholic.com
A superb site for clearing away the myths propagated by too many.
Offers free on-line library that examines all the major issues,
free on-line archive of over 1,500 hours of radio/audio material,
plus magazines, books, pamphlets, tracts, videos, and more.

Coming Home Network
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Provides fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant
pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or
have already been received into the Catholic Church.

Biblical Evidence for Catholicism
www.biblicalcatholic.com
Dave Armstrong's monster site. Eclectic, fun, exhaustingly
detailed, personal, moving, and more.

May the Word be a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your path.
11 posted on 08/06/2003 1:41:26 PM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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To: SkyPilot
Can anybody tell me how the pro-homosexual clerics explain away the multiple prohibitions to homosexuality in the Bible?

It seems about as clear as an issue can be. I just can't understand how they can ignore it.

12 posted on 08/06/2003 1:42:23 PM PDT by TomB
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To: SkyPilot
In an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press, Robinson said he hoped his critics would not leave the church, though he disagrees with their view that gay sex violates Scripture. (amongst other things)


No Shame,, No Blame ... How Clintonian :-\

13 posted on 08/06/2003 1:42:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...&&&&&&&&&...SuPPort FRee Republic.....www.TomMcClintock.com..... NEVER FORGET)
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To: SkyPilot
Yes, but how do you shame the shameless?

Obviously, you can't.

14 posted on 08/06/2003 1:43:43 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: ladtx
No, he would say that he was made in the image of god. Therefore, what's the problem?

Now, who will you send your son to if he needs some pastoral assistance, hmmm?
15 posted on 08/06/2003 1:44:34 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: NormsRevenge
So just a little more than 10% walk out. What's that tell ya?
16 posted on 08/06/2003 1:44:52 PM PDT by Digger
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To: ladtx
You are reading my mind; why is ONE man more important than a whole denomination.
17 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sine_nomine
I agree. The last time in history the churches experienced the type of upheaval that is about to occur was with the founding of the Luthern and Anglican churches. This will cause entire communities to split at the seams.

If I remember correctly, there have been a few historical writings about this occurring. Hmmm.......
18 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:14 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Remember the Blue Ridge Corporation!!!! Damn the torpedoes and SEC, full speed ahead!)
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To: SkyPilot
Martin Luther rightly excoriated the Catholic Church for, among other things, the sexual license of many priests and bishops. Five hundred years later, such license is called "diversity".
19 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:26 PM PDT by roderick
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To: TomB
I heard them do it last night on Hannity and Colmes. They equated it to the slavery that was condoned in the Bible. Their answer was, "times have changed."
20 posted on 08/06/2003 1:45:36 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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