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Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
NewsMax.com ^ | August 6, 2003 | Charles Smith

Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina

Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003

NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.

The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.

Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.

The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.

U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.

Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.

Click here to see troops towing the jet away.

All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF

The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.

The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.

The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.

X MARKS THE SPOT

The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.

U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.

Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.

While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.

Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allyourmigs; arebelongtous; britanniaisatroll; foxbat; iraq; iraqiairforce; mig; migs; pictures; rebuildingiraq; trollalert; trollbane; trollinthread; wmd
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To: ASA Vet
(or is that cathode?)

I cannot believe that you emitted that statement.

"All your base are belong to us".

Sorry...

201 posted on 08/06/2003 5:35:25 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Britannia
In what way is it interesting that these countries have supplied just a fraction of equipment to iraq when compared to what America has "supplied" to Israel?

In what way are you counting? ...and from when? That aside from the "who cares" in regarding supplying to Israel.

202 posted on 08/06/2003 5:36:41 PM PDT by lepton
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To: thackney
Thanks for the ping. I got sidetracked at work and didn't responded until tonight. Then I forgot to ping you. I deserve a good beating. I just wish that I knew somebody who had the nads to show up at my home and administer it!!!


Eaker

203 posted on 08/06/2003 5:42:49 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Veracious Poet
I have over 16 years professional experience as a Mechanical/Quality Engineer in Aerospace, with 4 years in the SR-71 maintenance program. The MiG-25 was designed to intercept the SR-71 and strategic bombers in the early 70s, and is no threat at all to US warbirds nowadays...

I have over 11 years of experience as an electronics/quality assurance engineer in aerospace amd nine years previous experience in the USAF. I distinctly recall the same argument being used against the MiG-17 as it spread Thud and Phantom parts all over North Vietnam.

The only thing that we agree on is that it was stupid to bury the MiBs without some sort of protective coating.

My USAF intel buddies give me a warm fuzzy feeling that we know lots, make that LOTS more than is being revealed about WMDs.

204 posted on 08/06/2003 5:49:29 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: lmailbvmbipfwedu
Every Navy sub-hunting P-3, S-3 and SH-60 has a magnetic anomoly detection (MAD) system. Unless technology has changed drastically in the last 10 years they would have to fly almost right over it at relatively low altitude to pick it up. If it is mostly aluminum, it would be easy to miss.
205 posted on 08/06/2003 5:54:27 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: FreepForever
Keep welcoming me back! LOL.

Hope that things are going well in HK.
206 posted on 08/06/2003 6:06:27 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Russians have amazing weapons--they are just not good at consumer goods. Anyone who doubts that the Russians can do some things well and even better are in for a rude shock.
207 posted on 08/06/2003 6:28:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: pfflier
Without going into any detail, I agree with your warm fuzzy feeling. ;)
208 posted on 08/06/2003 6:29:10 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: bedolido
I didn't know the Foxbat could do Mach 3. The SR-71 could do it... I don't even think F14's can (not sure)

Well, I'm not sure this violates the "Loose Lips" mandate, but US planes have LONG passed that 2000 mph.

The SR-71 top speed is still classified, but is well past 5000 mph.

As far as the F-14, I have been told that it took a squadron 55 minutes to cross the US from California to a Carrier leaving South Carolina...and that was with 2 slowdowns for re-fueling. You do the math.

Don't ask for "source" or "proof". Take the info or leave it, no sweat off my front.

209 posted on 08/06/2003 6:30:58 PM PDT by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Tallguy
The MiG-25 Foxbat was designed to knock down our bombers--no dogfight required.
210 posted on 08/06/2003 6:31:46 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Pyro7480
According to Victor Belenko, a Russian pilot who defected by flying his MiG-25 Foxbat to Japan, the Foxbat can fly Mach 3.2. But the flight will be extremely short and after the flight it must change its engines.
211 posted on 08/06/2003 6:32:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: lepton
>>The output terminals were just strapped together on the inside.

>They must not have tested it very well. It should have been a single wire to ground (plus ornamentation), yes?

Well, they probably asked for a floating zero-volt supply in order to eliminate ground-loop inaccuracies.

<]B^)

212 posted on 08/06/2003 6:34:58 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Blood of Tyrants
In the mid-1980s I was busy working on our own tube systems in the B-52 and KC-135.
213 posted on 08/06/2003 6:34:58 PM PDT by TankerKC (If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from?)
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To: lepton
< Shouldn't that have been a number, 94 or less? :P

That's all right. Keep piling on. I can take it.

214 posted on 08/06/2003 6:38:01 PM PDT by js1138
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To: HighRoadToChina
I don't know if anyone's posted a link to this site, but I found a series of photos there, as well as some other interesting stuff. (I have to speed-FReep, not at home and costing $$).

I got your other reply, and am glad to hear that all is well with you. Can't wait to see the CD!

FReep on!

215 posted on 08/06/2003 6:38:58 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (Hillary!'s book is reputation-cleansing prep work for a run for higher office; FReep her everywhere!)
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To: Pyro7480
many of the sailors who served on such subs got cancer.

They also got jobs as nightlights.

216 posted on 08/06/2003 6:39:59 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Itzlzha
A friend of mine mentioned that a classified doc was printed in a mil magazine which verified your speed for the SR 71.

Not bad for an almost ancient bird!
217 posted on 08/06/2003 6:42:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: El Gato
Not washing with water at any rate.

Ivan says, wash with vodka! Oh wait, they don't have that in those Islamic countries.

218 posted on 08/06/2003 6:50:47 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Itzlzha
The SR-71 top speed is still classified, but is well past 5000 mph.

It'll go that fast, but the crew will become crispy critters since the cabin cooling won't keep up the frictional heat generation.

I never cease to be amazed by the Blackbird. Kelly Johnson was a wizard.

219 posted on 08/06/2003 6:55:03 PM PDT by stboz
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To: HighRoadToChina
bump
220 posted on 08/06/2003 6:57:54 PM PDT by grumple
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