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NRA Muzzles Grassroots Gunowners with Lawsuit
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Posted on 08/06/2003 10:24:29 AM PDT by Copernicus

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GRNC Alert: 8-1-03 Grass Roots North Carolina
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P.O. Box 10684, Raleigh, NC 27605
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[Analysis] Since 1994, state-level gun rights organization Grass Roots North Carolina has overseen the passage of a "shall-issue" concealed handgun law and a concealed handgun reciprocity bill. More importantly, the organization has killed more than a dozen gun control bills-some backed by national gun control groups-ranging from mandatory gun storage laws to gun show restrictions. USE GRNC's AUTOMATED E-MAIL

NRA BACKS REGISTRATION & CONFISCATION SCHEME

Because GRNC refuses to compromise on principles, however, conflicts have sometimes arisen between GRNC and the NRA when the NRA has endorsed anti-gun legislation or politicians. (For a summary, go to http://www.grnc.org/nra_sellouts/nra_sellouts.htm ).

Most recently, NRA lobbyists signed off on SB 919, a North Carolina bill which stands to register and confiscate guns under the guise of combating "domestic violence." Worse, because the actions occur at "ex parte" or emergency hearings-in which a defendant may not have an opportunity to defend himself-the registration and confiscation schemes deny defendants access to due process of law. According to the Raleigh "News & Observer," only GRNC stood tall in opposition to the bill.

GUN CONTROL MEASURES THE NRA APPROVED IN SB 919:
A judge is required to "catalog" (register) a defendant's guns, even if the complaint is dismissed as invalid.
Under some circumstances, a judge may order a defendant's firearms seized even if the defendant never had an opportunity to present his case.
Sheriffs can even charge the gun owner unspecified fees for storing seized firearms.

IS NRA DOING TO GRNC WHAT CITIES DID TO GUN MAKERS?

In the past four months alone, GRNC has twice exposed NRA sellouts to gun owners: First, when NRA secretly gutted and rendered useless a concealed handgun reciprocity bill drafted by GRNC activists. Just weeks after that, GRNC opposed the "domestic violence" bill supported by the NRA. (For a history of NRA support of anti-gun measures, go to http://www.grnc.org/nra_sellouts/nra_sellouts.htm ).

Given GRNC's nine year history of exposing NRA sellouts, the NRA has a strong interest in silencing what it regards as a thorn in its side. So imagine our surprise when, on July 16, NRA lawyer Dan Zavodil filed a "defamation of character" lawsuit against Grass Roots North Carolina based on alleged private comments about an NRA lobbyist (U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, case #CA 03-906-A). Even more telling, although the NRA lawyer issued an arbitrary July 18, 2003 "deadline" by which GRNC's president was supposed to comply with his demands, he filed the lawsuit on July 16, BEFORE HIS OWN "DEADLINE" HAD EXPIRED. Does this sound like someone interested in settling a lawsuit?

IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED

CONTACT THE NRA and let them know that you don’t want your membership dues used to sell out gun rights and silence legitimate pro-gun activists. Regretfully, the only way to get the message across is to convince them that their abuses will cost them money. GRNC has always encouraged gun rights supporters to join the NRA and to keep memberships even when the NRA has undermined the Second Amendment. This time, however, the NRA is going to far. While GRNC does not advocate any particular action, that means annual members—not Life members—may consider resigning their memberships. Life members and others might consider letting the NRA know that they will not contribute a dime to the organization for as long as it compromises gun rights.

CONTACT NRA BOARD MEMBERS listed below and let them know what the organization they direct has been up to.

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FIGHT THE ABUSIVE LAWSUIT by donating to the Rights Watch Activist Defense Fund, care of Rights Watch International, P.O. Box 10684, Raleigh, NC 27605. Because RWI is a chartered 501(c)(3) non-profit organization, all donations are tax deductible. Bear in mind that if GRNC and RWI don't have enough money to fight the lawsuit, the fact that it is frivolous will be moot. Moreover, it will encourage the NRA to use the same tactics against other pro-gun activists who refuse to "toe the line." To donate using a credit card, go to http://www.rightswatch.org/help_the_good_fight.htm

USE GRNC's AUTOMATED E-MAIL: Go to http://www.grnc.org/nra_sellout/ and sign your name. In just a few minutes, you can send e-mails to the NRA and many of its board members.

CONTACT THESE NRA REPRESENTATIVES

NRA Institute for Legislative Action at: ila-contact@nrahq.org
NRA Board of Directors Members using the addresses below or GRNC's automated e-mailer at http://www.grnc.org/nra_sellout/

For a complete list of NRA Board Members, many emails and phone numbers, go to http://www.grnc.org/media/files/2003_NRA_BOD.htm

Here is a convenience list you may copy and paste into your email. Names with email and phone numbers are below. You will also find a link to find your representative at the end. We suggest using the bcc: field, but the to: or cc: field will work as well.

NRA-ILA phone number: 1-800-NRA-3888 (prompt #1 to resign memberships; prompt #5 for input on state and local affairs).

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I did not see this posted.

Those feisty folks in North Carolina are at it with the NRA again, hook and tong.

1 posted on 08/06/2003 10:24:31 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus; *bang_list; Travis McGee; 45Auto
For you to consider
2 posted on 08/06/2003 10:26:00 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Copernicus
If this group thinks it can go it alone maybe the NRA should stay out of North Carolina all together.
3 posted on 08/06/2003 10:29:35 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Copernicus
I pulled out of the NRA a couple of years ago when I learned that they aquired NGO status in the U.N.
We have also had to fight them on several issues here in Alabama. I think they have been infiltrated by the "Brady Bunch" at HCI.
4 posted on 08/06/2003 10:33:26 AM PDT by CCCV
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To: CCCV
I pulled out of the NRA a couple of years ago when I learned that they aquired NGO status in the U.N. We have also had to fight them on several issues here in Alabama. I think they have been infiltrated by the "Brady Bunch" at HCI.

Yea, the kicker for me is when they started flyin' them black helicopters.

5 posted on 08/06/2003 10:35:28 AM PDT by TomB
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To: CCCV
I agree. It is no longer in the realm of "tin foil" to suspect that they've been infiltrated at very high levels.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 10:37:24 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Copernicus
bump
7 posted on 08/06/2003 10:42:17 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It is no longer in the realm of "tin foil"
Before it really got bad, they had adopted the game plan to "cut the losses" and negoitate with the enemy. The problem with that is that you always negotiate over HOW MUCH your going to loose, never about the validity of the loss it self.
8 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:05 AM PDT by CCCV
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To: Copernicus
Bump dis up
9 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:12 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Shooter 2.5
If this group thinks it can go it alone maybe the NRA should stay out of North Carolina all together.

Well, if their press release is accurate, they pretty much have been "going it alone" and would welcome an NRA withdrawal from their state.

Best regards,

10 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:45 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: TomB
Yea, the kicker for me is when they started flyin' them black helicopters

Now why would you insult black helicopters with the suggestion they were trained by the NRA?

Best regards,

11 posted on 08/06/2003 10:52:24 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Copernicus
The NRA better get their act together and straighten up quick, or the American people could have their Second Ammendment rights in jeapordy. The only way to defeat the anti-gun liberals is if we hold strong on the important key issues and give concessions to the left as the NRA has done.
12 posted on 08/06/2003 10:55:02 AM PDT by whalehater
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To: whalehater
and give concessions to the left as the NRA has done.
With this as a strategy it is not a matter of IF we will loose our firearms but WHEN.

13 posted on 08/06/2003 10:58:37 AM PDT by CCCV
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To: whalehater
Pretty big list of concessions here, dating back 9 years in just one state.

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Summary of instances in which GRNC alerted gun rights activists to NRA obfuscations and endorsements of anti-gun candidates (reverse chronological order):
July, 2003: NRA LAWYER SUES GRNC

Conveniently following the SB 919 and SB 33 debacles described below (and after national embarrassment and many NRA membership resignations over SB 680, also described below), NRA lawyer Dan Zavodil files "defamation of character" suit, allegedly on behalf of NRA State & Local Affairs Manager Jennifer Palmer, against both Grass Roots North Carolina and GRNC President Paul Valone. The suit seeks $75,000 in damages.
March, 2003: 2ND NRA-ENDORSED POL TRIES TO END GUN SHOWS

Following the footsteps of Sen. Fountain Odom (described below), NRA-endorsed Democratic Senator Tony Rand (46% voting record, GRNC 0-star) introduces SB 610, "Sales Tax Collection at Gun Shows." With the exception of minor changes relating to sales tax, the bill contains exactly the same language restricting gun shows that GRNC defeated in two previous sessions of the General Assembly. Although GRNC issues alerts blasting the bill, NRA is silent. Although still alive, the bill has not yet received a committee hearing.
March, 2003: NRA GUTS RECIPROCITY BILL

Earlier in the session, Sen. Scott Thomas (D-Craven, GRNC 4-star)) had introduced concealed handgun reciprocity bill SB 33. The bill uses identical language to that drafted by GRNC and passed by the NC House in two previous sessions of the General Assembly. SB 33 is scheduled for a Judiciary Committee hearing on March 11. At 7:10 PM on the night prior to the meeting, however, NRA representative Jennifer Palmer and NC Attorney General's office representative Greg McCleod, in apparent collusion with other members of the AG's office and hired NRA lobbyists Joe and Henri McClees, draft a last-minute committee substitute bill which allows the state Attorney General (currently anti-gun Democrat Roy Cooper, GRNC 0-star) to reject reciprocal agreements with other states without stating reasons for so-doing. Worse, his determination would be "conclusive"-in the opinion of even Judiciary Committee counsel not subject to change by anyone, even including the Attorney General himself. The committee substitute also requires other states to conduct mental health checks, something not required in North Carolina nor by any other state. Since no central repository exists for mental health data exists, no other state would have been able to qualify for reciprocal agreements with NC, rendering the bill worthless. GRNC is able to clean up the bill only by holding it hostage in the House and sending a clean bill-HB 131, sponsored by Reps. Mark Hilton, Pryor Gibson (bopth GRNC 4-star) and others-back to the Senate. Eventually, a House subcommittee, with GRNC input drafts a clean reciprocity bill which recognizes permits from any state which recognizes those issued by NC. Ironically, despite colluding to gut SB 33 earlier, the Attorney General's office itself drafts the new, clean language, expressing no objection whatsoever to the amended bill. A series of alerts by GRNC draw fire to the NRA, again embarrassing the organization for attempting to weaken the bill.
November, 2002: NRA ENDORSES ANTI-GUN CANDIDATES (AGAIN)

After passage of its gun litigation bill, NRA endorses broad range of Democratic state house and senate candidates with voting records in clear opposition to Second Amendment issues. In particular, NRA gives "A+" and endorsement for the fourth time to Sen. Fountain Odom, whose history includes drafting a committee substitute bill to weaken North Carolina's 1995 concealed handgun law; co-sponsoring a 1998 concealed handgun liability bill designed to encourage merchants to post against concealed handguns; and sponsoring SB 680 (described below). In the House, NRA endorses incumbent Phil Baddour (77% pro-gun voting record, GRNC 1-star)) against former House representative Louis Pate (100% voting record, GRNC 4-star). GRNC-PVF sends alerts for Pate, who wins by only 174 votes and giving Republicans a 61-59 majority in the NC House for only the second time since reconstruction. GRNC alerts again embarrass NRA by detailing districts in which the organization backed anti-gun candidates.
May, 2001: NRA REFUSES TO TELL MEMBERS ABOUT GUN SHOW BILL

Early in the session, Sen. Odom (50% voting record, GRNC 0-star) introduces SB 680, an NRA-backed bill restricting municipal litigation against gun manufacturers. An identical bill, introduced in the House by Rep. Wayne Sexton (100% voting record, GRNC 4-star), HB 622, passes the House overwhelmingly. Senate President Pro Tem Marc Basnight (50% voting record, GRNC 0-star), however, refuses to give either bill a committee hearing. To dislodge the bill, Odom allows SB 1020, an entire gun show bill which has been killed in previous sessions and is unlikely to get a hearing, to be merged into his litigation bill. NRA state representative Nicole Palya and lobbyist Joe McClees both admit engineering the move. Meanwhile, NRA literature and membership alerts tout the gun litigation aspects of the merged bill while hiding the gun show language. After warning the NRA that failure to remove gun show language would result in a national campaign against the NRA, GRNC distributes national alerts detailing the NRA's role in pushing gun show restrictions. NRA representative Anthony Roulette, responding to membership e-mails, says GRNC is "lying" about the content of the bill. Even though Sexton's companion bill is "clean," lacking gun show language, the NRA ignores the bill until a public campaign by GNRC makes it impossible to pass SB 680.
May, 1998: NRA-ENDORSED POL SPONSORS POSTING BILL / NRA OKs BILL

Sen. Odom co-sponsors SB 324, "Concealed Handguns/Liability" along with anti-gun Sen. Frank Ballance. The bill would have allowed merchants to post signs prohibiting concealed carry but remain free of civil liability if a disarmed permit-holder was injured in a crime. GRNC canvassed merchants and found that their greatest concern was a wrongful shooting in their business by a permit-holder. Accordingly, our attorney drafted language absolving merchants of such liability. When Sen. President Pro Tem and other Democratic leaders refused to sponsor the language, they advised us that the NRA had approved the bill's existing contents . Calls to NRA representative Jeff Freeman (then the state and local affairs representative for NC) went un-returned. GRNC successfully amended the bill in a recorded floor vote, after which the bill's sponsors sent it back to committee and killed it rather than passing it with gun-neutral language.
November, 1996: NRA ENDORSES ANTI-GUN GOVERNOR

In an apparent payback for a belated letter of support for the NRA's range protection bill, the NRA endorses incumbent Governor Jim Hunt, even after numerous NC activists point out printed statements from the Governor in support of the "assault weapon" ban and other gun control measures. Tanya Metaksa actually comes to Raleigh to quell the rebellion by meeting with several dozen activists, ostensibly to explain the NRA position, but actually to dictate terms. GRNC supports challenger and eventually congressman Robin Hayes. Newspaper articles highlight the rift between GRNC and NRA over the Hunt endorsement.
In the same election, the NRA first elevates the rating of Sen. Odom from "B" to "A+", also giving him an endorsement. During the previous session of the General Assembly, Odom had first stripped NRA instructors from the list of instructors certified to administer concealed handgun training, leaving only a very limited number of law enforcement instructors. Later, in a floor amendment to his own committee substitute, he returned NRA instructors to the concealed handgun bill in an apparent deal with the NRA. (Note: He did not correct any of the other flaws of his committee substitute bill).
November, 1994: NRA ENDORSES ANTI-GUN SENATE INCUMBENTS

NRA endorses incumbent state Senators Marvin Ward and Ted Kaplan (both of the Forsyth County two-seat District 20, GRNC 0-star) over Republican challengers Ham Horton and Mark McDaniel (100% voting records, GRNC 4-star). Candidate surveys by GRNC discover that Ward and Kaplan both favor "assault weapon" bans, oppose concealed handgun laws, and support other gun control measures. With GRNC support, McDaniel and Horton unseat Ward and Kaplan. McDaniel later becomes the leading Senate advocate for concealed handgun bill HB 90.

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14 posted on 08/06/2003 11:06:24 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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I recently informed the NRA that I will never be giving money to their organization again, due to their attempt to hijack the Cato institute 2nd amendment lawsuit on the D.C. gun ban. I see three possible reasons for this, all of them worthy of my refusal to continue to support them:

#1: Ego. They think this is the NRA's fight, and they are not about to allow a small upstart like the Cato institute upstage them. This puts their committment to their core values into question, since that committment might be thrown out if it can be exchanged for good press and/or notoriety.

#2: They actually think the Cato case is bad. This would color them as stupid, and I'm not entrusting the protection of my rights to an organization run by idiots. It's the NRA's case that is based on needless tangents and ancilliary arguments, the Cato case is a clean 2nd amendment case to be ruled on its merits.

#3: The organization has been infiltrated at high levels by people opposed to their agenda.
15 posted on 08/06/2003 11:25:29 AM PDT by Abe Froman
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To: Abe Froman
Have a look at: http://www.jpfo.org/
16 posted on 08/06/2003 11:30:04 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: Copernicus
Good point.

;-)
17 posted on 08/06/2003 11:31:06 AM PDT by TomB
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To: CCCV
I think they have been infiltrated by the "Brady Bunch" at HCI.

Yep. Just like the sodomites destroyed the churches that let them in.
The same way the minds of the children are being destroyed by liberal special interest groups in public schools. Parents let them in.
Just like Log Cabin Republicans in the Republican party. We let them in.
Just like Abortion, special interest, and pro-Marxist supporting judges on the bench who are suppose to insure life, liberty, etc. to all. Someone let them in.

That's how the left works. First they infultrate as"one of you", then they destroy from within.

18 posted on 08/06/2003 11:56:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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I think the NRA acquiring NGO status was a good thing. We need someone who can speak at the global level to counter those who wish to disarm us!
19 posted on 08/06/2003 12:03:55 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org julib@2asisters.org)
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To: CCCV
When Wayne La Piere went to the Bilderberg meeting that sealed it for me. < /sarcasm>
20 posted on 08/06/2003 12:06:29 PM PDT by Nov3
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