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Abortion leading cause of African-American deaths
www.news-press.com ^ | August 6, 2003 | Ismael Hernandez,

Posted on 08/06/2003 9:09:09 AM PDT by cpforlife.org

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: cpforlife.org
Black leadership even advocates evil procedure

In 100 years the black leaders will probably blame whites and demand reparations for the abortions of blacks.

In reality most blacks are all for what wicked planned parenthood is doing.

21 posted on 08/06/2003 10:44:20 AM PDT by Tiger_eye
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To: cpforlife.org
But...but...but, these weren't African-Americans! These were merely unwanted cellular masses.
22 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:30 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Pippin
Welcome to the Pro-Life Ping List.

The single most important thing we all can do is to teach our children about the sanctity of life, and of the personhood of the unborn citizen waiting to be born. Related to the first is for each of us to try to get the schools (Christian & private) in our particular areas to start teaching the truth about the unborn (that life begins at conception, your heart starts beating at about 20 days, etc.) It must be TAUGHT like any other subject REGULARLY from k-12 (appropriately, not mentioning abortion till after 5 grade or so)

If anyone here has tried changing the mind of an adult on this subject you know it is tough to impossible. With children that problem simply does not exist. Until Christian and private schools teach LIFE in a comprehensive way there simply will not be the numbers needed in the voting booth to change this culture of death, it is that simple. Without this, all other efforts, have for THIRTY YEARS, come up short.

Here are some excerpts from THE MISSING KEY OF THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT

THE POWER OF CHRISTIAN EDUCATION

We must start with being mindful that young children are naturally pro-life. Ask a young child who has a pregnant mother what is inside his mother's “tummy,” and he will likely respond that it is his baby brother or sister. It is so simple to a child. Truth usually is simple. Christian educators must work with this incredible advantage: That they have a captive audience of school students whose minds are open vessels for learning about the sanctity of life-from conception to natural death.

Among the current students who are in kindergarten through twelfth grade in the United States, over twelve million are in Protestant schools or Bible study, 6.8 million are in Catholic schools or Confraternity of Christian of Doctrine (CCD), and over one million are being home schooled. Imagine how different our culture would be if all of these children were to receive a Pro-Life education. These are monumental numbers that can no longer be ignored. The impact of these additional Pro-Life voters would be so tremendous, that the shift in our culture would be of historical proportions.

The spirit in the schools of one generation,
is the spirit in the Government of the next.

--Since the decision of Roe v. Wade, tens of millions of Christian school students could have received a Pro-Life education. This group would today constitute a huge voting block; and with them, the culture of death might have already been defeated.

The Pro-Life movement has worked tirelessly, attempting to change the hearts and minds of adults in the voting booth and in government. However, this is addressing the problem after the damage has been done. Simultaneously, children's hearts and minds are not being properly cultivated in the truth of the sanctity of life while in Christian school. The result is that Christian schools continue graduating more voters and future government leaders whose record of defending life is no better than the national average. This sad reality is made evident with every election (see below) and with every legislative session. This self-defeating cycle must stop, as it is one of the main underlying reasons why we have not yet ended the scourge of abortion and the growing tolerance of euthanasia.

Few would argue that it is much harder to change the minds of adults than it is to properly form the minds of children, especially in matters of morality. Only by finally addressing this problem and moving to correct it can we begin to change our culture and our laws. The very soul of our country is at stake. If the people of our nation remain uneducated, then change cannot occur.

Implementation of a comprehensive Pro-Life education program from kindergarten through twelfth grade will steadily increase the momentum of the Culture of Life. After receiving a Pro-Life education, Christians will place life as the preeminent factor in their vote. In turn, this will lead to the defeat of the culture of death. This program has nothing to do with sex education. Rather, it teaches about the sanctity of life at all stages of the human continuum, with particular emphasis on the time from conception to birth. This simple and easily implemented curriculum is truly a missing key in our movement, perhaps the most important missing component in our battle for the unborn-and the culture at large. Other strategies do not have this powerful capacity to effect such a change. We believe that this plan could substantially transform our culture to one that reveres all life and simultaneously advance the return of a Christian nation.

After 30 years of political battles, we have a culture sinking into deeper darkness and 42+ million dead by abortion. The sad reality is that the duration of the abortion holocaust is prolonged by Christians who vote for pro-abortion candidates. This can only end with a new generation of Christians fully educated on the sanctity of Life before birth. Politics alone has not succeeded. Education of school students is the key.

23 posted on 08/06/2003 10:51:49 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, a LIAR and MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org
“The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.” C. S. Lewis

I love that quote.

The real problem or mistake that is the cause of not only the abortion tragedy, but many other ills we see is this:

Mistaken identity. Being bereft of understanding the nature of the soul, people identify only with the temporary shell - vehicle - body. They think life is an accidental, meaningless occurance, isolated in a vast accidental purposeless universe, that life is a chemical by product, with no meaining, purpose, no God in control. No one is the witness of their actions, no one hears prayers or sees their hearts, there are no reactions to anything they do. Heaven and hell are antiquated theories (fairy stories), "as you sow, so shall you reap" - the immutable law of karma - is fiction to most people. Therefore, in the few years a person thinks they will be alive, not seeing eternity stretching before them, they see immediate personal gratification and sensual and mental pleasure as the only goal in life.

Therefore, why not break all the old rules, if they are not based on Darwin's law of the fittest? Grab pleasure when you can, and if someone - a tiny unborn someone - gets in the way of enjoyment, there's no harm in getting rid of the obstacle. After all, humans - and animals - are just machines made of meat.

I don't see any hope unless people have spiritual renewal, individually and enough enough indidviduals that society is affected.

And I am not seeing this in a sectarian manner; some of you have read my posts on Vedic understanding of God.

As long as people are ignorant of the reality that the real self is an eternally existing soul, (jivatma in Sanskrit), and that we all have an eternal forgotten relationship of kinship and loving service with the Supreme Lord, not only will such evils as abortion and sodomy continue, I believe they will get worse, as they have been doing.

24 posted on 08/06/2003 10:59:11 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: wasp69
http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/casey/ch3.html#S4

Pro-Choice Advocates Agree that Abortion Kills Humans.

Many abortion advocates have agreed that abortion kills human life: A 1963 Planned Parenthood brochure says that life begins at conception: "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun."{67} Former Planned Parenthood President Faye Wattleton admits that the preborn are alive in her 1986 book:

"There are many sperm cells in the [seminal] fluid. If one of them meets an egg cell inside the mother, new life can begin to grow... If one of your friends is pregnant, ask her to let your child 'feel the baby move.' ... A baby grows in a special place inside the mother, called the uterus -- not in her stomach. In nine months it is born."{68}

Similarly, Dr. Mary Calderone, former director of Planned Parenthood has stated that "[a]bortion is the taking of a human life"{69} and Dr. Alan Guttmacher,{70} former president of Planned Parenthood and founder of the Guttmacher Institute, the research affiliate of Planned Parenthood, has stated "[f]ertilization has then taken place; a baby has been conceived."{71} {72} While many abortion defenders readily concede that abortion kills human life, it is necessary to expound on this point because examining the nature of the unborn human being at the point of conception shows the inherent dignity that we all share from our biologic beginnings that are hidden from eyes of the world.

Not only have representatives from the nations largest abortion provider agreed that life begins at conception, but others who support abortion have agreed that abortion is murder. Dr. Magda Denes who performed two years of research in an abortion facility and compiled her results{73} told a Chicago newspaper "There wasn’t an (abortion) doctor who at one time or another in the questioning did not say ‘this is murder.’"{74} Even Kate Michelman, President of N.AR.A.L. seems to be moving in the direction of agreeing that abortion is murder by her statement that "[a]bortion is a bad thing."{75} Others who have at one time been heavily involved with abortion have later agreed, such as "Jane Roe" Norma McCorvey, Dr. Bernard Nathanson, and Carol Everett.

In addition, everyone who uses the term "fetus" unwittingly acknowledges that the unborn human is an unborn child because fetus is Latin for "unborn child." Unfortunately for the unborn child, the term fetus has fallen into use as a way of dehumanizing the unborn child, as shown by the primary use of this term by people when they are arguing for abortion rights, in comparison to when they are discussing a baby that is wanted by the mother.

25 posted on 08/06/2003 11:00:06 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, a LIAR and MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cwboelter
Three words: Adoption and personal responsibility.

One more - orphanages. Newt was pilloried for saying it a few years ago. A well run orphanage would be millions of times better than abortion if adoptive parents can't be found. And with all the classified ads I see everywhere, with sad would-be parents unable to find a baby to adopt, I think adoption is a big answer, until society straightens itself out and premarital and meaningless sex is considered shameful again.

26 posted on 08/06/2003 11:04:54 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: biblewonk
"What's different about black girls that they get knocked up then and kill the baby? "

Black girls are less likely to be married, are more likely to be teenagers, and more likely to despair over not having the financial means to care for the child. All the counseling services in the inner city are provided by government funding, and these will all steer them to an abortion clinic.

27 posted on 08/06/2003 11:05:19 AM PDT by tom h
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To: cwboelter
I also got into a good argument with a freind who said that since conservatives aren't in favor of expanding the welfare system to take care of unwanted children, our position on pro-life is hypocritical since we don't want to take care of the child after its birth. Three words: Adoption and personal responsibility.

Oh absolutely, this is one of the pro-abort type's standard arguments. But when you actually suggest to them these alternative solutions, that gets you the R label, too -- somehow, expecting people (minorities in particular) to conduct themselves above the level of copulating animals is "racist."

28 posted on 08/06/2003 11:05:30 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: tom h
Why are black girls more likely to be pregnant, unmarried teens than white girls?
29 posted on 08/06/2003 11:08:19 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: Lantern1776
You could call it a Murder Tax

In true California fashion we wouldn't call it a tax at all, simply a 'users fee'. Gotta vote on taxes, fees can be enacted at the whim of the governor.

30 posted on 08/06/2003 11:08:50 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (All Your Base Are Belong To Us)
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To: cpforlife.org
They're being sent to the slaughter, just as the Marxist founder of Planned Parenthood had wanted.
Marxist believe they need to keep the black population down any way they can. Keeping them in failing schools, housing complexes, welfare payments and food stamps just isn't good enough. Caging them in poverty and misery isn't keeping their numbers down as much as they thought it would.

It's sad, and really quite bazarre, but the left wing side of the African American community keeps voting for these people who want them minimized each election day anyway! Their logic is hard to understand.

31 posted on 08/06/2003 11:16:23 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: pram
You know what's sad? My cousin and her husband had to literaly travel to Romania to adopt 2 chldren (She can't have children) because it was so hard to do so in this country. And they were relatively well off. Adoption is a joke in this country. My brother-in-law, who's a lawyer, eventually adopted 2 children as well. And while he adopted 2 American kids, he got lucky becasue the family knew the 2 women (one was a 16 year-old) who were giving the kids up. If it wasn't for his inside connection, he said it would've been a pain in the *ss...even for him, as a lawyer.
32 posted on 08/06/2003 11:18:49 AM PDT by cwb
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To: cpforlife.org
They have forgotten that in the past racists snatched black babies from their mother’s arms and sold them into slavery. Today, they snatch them from their mother’s womb and throw them in the garbage.

Well said. VERY well said.

33 posted on 08/06/2003 11:19:17 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: biblewonk
>>Why are black girls more likely to be pregnant, unmarried teens than white girls? <<

As stated to me by many black girls attending Metro Campus of Cuyahoga Community College in Cleveland, having a baby is a ticket out of poverty. Food stamps, housing, ADC, it all comes with having a baby. Then, the daycare is paid for while mom goes to college on the taxpayer.
That was 1982. Guess who are the mothers of the girls of today? Having a baby while still in high school is the norm for many black girls. And black women take care of their own children (most of the black women I know feel that all financial support for children is on the mom, if a man wants to help, great) so men are really not needed.
However, if that "mass of cells" gets in the way, there is an easy way out.
34 posted on 08/06/2003 11:23:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Question_Assumptions
who use, "What about all those poor minority babies that would be born if abortion weren't illegal? Who is going to pay for them?"

But it's ok to support thousands of illegals that cross the border? I'd say save the babies, close the boarders.

35 posted on 08/06/2003 11:23:36 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: Coleus
Ouch!!!!

"All children born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room is made for them by the deaths of grown persons. We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality.

Malthus' disciples believed if Western civilization were to survive, the physically unfit, the materially poor, the spiritually diseased, the racially inferior, and the mentally incompetent had to be suppressed and isolated—or even, perhaps, eliminated. His disciples felt the subtler and more “scientific” approaches of education, contraception, sterilization and abortion were more “practical and acceptable ways” to ease the pressures of the alleged overpopulation.

36 posted on 08/06/2003 11:31:03 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes, but, why is it black girls that are doing this scam and not white girls?
37 posted on 08/06/2003 11:48:30 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: mhking
Ping
38 posted on 08/06/2003 12:17:37 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (...they led my people astray, saying, "Peace!" when there was no peace -- Ezekiel 13:10)
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

39 posted on 08/06/2003 12:18:54 PM PDT by mhking
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To: cpforlife.org
Appalling. Margaret Sanger had to be one of the most hateful women ever born. At least the ignorance of a THomas Malthus could be partially excused by the fact he lived in an age when enlightened resistance to bigotry didn't exist on any large scale. Sanger knew precisely what she was doing and precisely why she was doing it. Sort of like Hitler but with a better PR scheme.
40 posted on 08/06/2003 12:20:22 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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