IBM will force their employees to train their outsourcing replacements.

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[samuel_adams_us]

August 5, 2003

IBM Offshoring Audio Now on Web

WashTech News

Two weeks ago we reported on IBM's plans to move thousands of U.S.-based information technology jobs overseas.

IBM executives and managers discussed the perceived need and rationale for accelerated offshore outsourcing during an internal summit earlier this year. The meeting was broadcast live over the Internet to the company's 2,000 human resource managers around the world. The discussion was recorded by IBM and stored on an internal company web site. An IBM employee upset about the company's plans provided a copy of the digitized audio file to WashTech.

Today, we offer audio from the actual IBM HR meeting at which these plans were discussed.

Follow the link below to hear Tom Lynch, IBM's incoming employee relations director, discuss the company's plans to ship IT work abroad, and force IBM employees to train the foreign workers who will be replacing them.

http://www.unionvoice.org/ct/D1qId8n1Bdqn/

[samuel_adams_us]

I would advise mistraining their replacements, make sure they fail, take your time, maybe even find a way to have the bastards deported for being a terrorist.

[Gorzaloon]

I would advise mistraining their replacements, make sure they fail, take your time, maybe even find a way to have the bastards deported for being a terrorist.

Sounds kind of like having the prisoners dig their own trenches prior to execution.

Someone once told me that LEO's fear a man who has nothing left to lose.

It's about time we started seeing some rebellion.

That said, however, there WERE too many inflated salaries in the Dot.Nothing era, and every bubble has to pop. But normally, the supply-demand forces would have simply lowered the salaries...NOT eliminated them and shipped them elsewhere.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Picture of an IBM employee

[Starwind]

I would advise mistraining their replacements, make sure they fail, take your time, maybe even find a way to have the bastards deported for being a terrorist.

That could make the person liable for legal action, or at best, eliminate any chance of a good reference to the next employer (not that many references are given these days anyway).

Best to simply resign and begin the search for another job. Keep your 'hands clean'. They may even ask you back as a contractor at higher rates (short term).

[Snake65]

A good friend of mine at Accenture just finished training the Fillipinos who are replacing him. This is his last week on the job. The Fillipinos made more on their per diem while they were in Chicago than they made all year at home.

[PetroniDE]

Best to simply resign and begin the search for another job. Keep your 'hands clean'. They may even ask you back as a contractor at higher rates (short term).

Find another job FIRST, then resign.....

[samuel_adams_us]

Placing a call to the INS about a suspected terrorist won't get you any legal action, but it will get your replacement sent to GITMO.

[harpseal]

That could make the person liable for legal action, or at best, eliminate any chance of a good reference to the next employer (not that many references are given these days anyway).

Now since the L1 and H1B visa programs have specific references in them to not displacxing American jobs what visas will these replacements coming into the USA under? If either of the former H1-B is the most likely then I would suggest any IBM manager commiotting perjury or telling another to commit perjury be prosecuted and impriisoned for this crime. that alone would put a quick stop to this plan but it requires laws to be enforced in the way they were written.

I guess legal liability only appleas to the peons.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Follow the link below to hear Tom Lynch, IBM's incoming employee relations director, discuss the company's plans to ship IT work abroad, and force IBM employees to train the foreign workers who will be replacing them.

B*stard. I would advise mistraining their replacements, make sure they fail, take your time, maybe even find a way to have the bastards deported for being a terrorist.

I like the way you think.

[harpseal]

ping

on or off let me know.

[Wolfie]

This has "workplace shooting" written all over it.

[cjshapi]

I trained my replacements (not foreign outsourcing) when my company closed all remote locations. It was actually fun because the replacements were so dumb I knew they were doomed to fail. And they did.

[samuel_adams_us]

I just figured this out, a class action lawsuit against the high tech companies for violating the H1B visa law. I need a law firm now.

[Cronos]

This would only work if the replacement from the list of terrorist suspected countries which all tend to be Middle EAstern or slamic. This won't apply to Filipinos or Indians who may very well be Christian.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

Well, afterall, IBM is only doing what Bank of America, Siemens, Sun and all the rest of "U.S. based multi-national" corporations have been doing. What's the big deal?

I say we throw 'em out, and start fresh. Make these execs live in India and China. And let's make the execs train their replacements.
Oops, what's to train, blind greed comes so naturally to some.

[samuel_adams_us]

Better look up your terrorist list again buddy, we have SOG's in the phillipines today.

[pabianice]

Communism, anyone?

[tkathy]

The only way to fight this abomination is economic boycott.

[Lazamataz]

I would advise mistraining their replacements, make sure they fail, take your time, maybe even find a way to have the bastards deported for being a terrorist.

Tell them instructions that are diametrically opposed to the way things work, advise them that loud discussions of Islam are encouraged, give them a firearm and instruct them to bring it to work daily, and tell them the boss's wife likes to boff the hired help.