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1 posted on 08/05/2003 12:57:01 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
Reality Check by the homosexual lobby Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, just send me a FReepmail. Please realize that some of my "ping" posts are long.)
2 posted on 08/05/2003 12:58:38 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
These words should sober any conservative:

The fight over same-sex marriage may seem like a moment of truth for gay rights, but it's bigger than even that. We are moving toward a decisive juncture in the culture wars, with queers—those consummate creatures of modernism—directly in the line of fire.

They are preparing for a decisive political battle, and so therefore so must we.

Excellent post.

3 posted on 08/05/2003 1:03:44 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Polycarp
Homosexuals have successfully depicted themselves as victims, which has gained them tolerance from most people, including many who don't really approve of their life style. But it's hard to depict yourself as a victim when you are riding high, dominating politics, and shoving supreme court decisions down people's throats or imposing homosexual values on people's kids in school.

Most Freepers could see this coming, but the rest of the country is just beginning to wake up to it, and they don't like what they see.

Probably the gay lobby can still push more stuff through while the momentum is on their side. But as this article suggests, there will be a backlash at some point. And the probable percentage of gays in the population is only about 5%, with maybe another 25% sympathetic to their cause for various political reasons--for instance, those willing to support gays in return for their support for abortion.
4 posted on 08/05/2003 1:11:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Polycarp
Any movement within a larger society can become so successful that it changes the society at large. I think even the most rabid gays would admit that there is a maximum societal percentage of gays. After all, if everyone is gay, the society's lifetime is very limited, not to mention that there is no one else to convert. I wonder what they think that percentage is--10%, 20%, 50%, 90%?
5 posted on 08/05/2003 1:11:32 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: Polycarp
The fight over same-sex marriage may seem like a moment of truth for gay rights, but it's bigger than even that. We are moving toward a decisive juncture in the culture wars, with queers—those consummate creatures of modernism—directly in the line of fire.
6 posted on 08/05/2003 1:11:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Polycarp
In May, 80 percent of liberals favored gay civil unions, if not full-blown marriage

Icky choice of words.

7 posted on 08/05/2003 1:14:53 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Polycarp
I've never seen Will and Grace. That show's about homos?
8 posted on 08/05/2003 1:17:24 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Polycarp
They have not suffered nowhere near what blacks did. Not even close.
9 posted on 08/05/2003 1:19:09 PM PDT by bluebunny
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To: Polycarp
INTSUM
17 posted on 08/05/2003 1:30:11 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Polycarp
I, for one, will attempt to take back the English language.
I will no longer refer to queers as gay but homos.
If they can call me a homophobe – which by the way makes no sense in Latin – then they must be homos.
18 posted on 08/05/2003 1:30:27 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Polycarp
Welcome to the we're-*REALLY*-tired-of-the-fudgepackers backlash.

Not satisfied with tolerance, they insisted on everyone accepting them and wanting to be like them... ignoring the death rates from AIDs, suicide, multiple concurrent STDs, etc. "Gay" Yeah, right. A one-word oxymoron.

And now the older fudgepackers are making highschools for misguided teenagers... makes it easier to get laid, I guess.

What's next? Grade schools for "Gay, Lesbian and transgendered"? When little Sally says she wants to be a boy, do you take her in for a conversion? Encourage her to "come out" and "embrace her sexuality"?

Excuse me, but what in the hell does someone that age really know about sex or themselves for that matter?

This is nothing more than the NAMBLA crowd getting their wish -- with the idiot parents cheering them on in the name of diversity.

This is why I can't stand a lot of the 60s era parents: they are, like, sooooooooooo burnt out and stupid, dude.

27 posted on 08/05/2003 2:00:02 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: Polycarp
"This week, auditions will be held
for 'the first openly gay country music star,'"

Okay, now this one I can't wait to see.

Country music is a niche market and its followers are not likely to support this "trend".
28 posted on 08/05/2003 2:00:39 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Polycarp
We should be sending queer griots into black churches, celebrating the major role lesbians have played in the Latino struggle, telling the stories of homos growing up in trailers

LOL! Yea, and if it never happened, lets get the media to swear it did!!

34 posted on 08/05/2003 2:11:35 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Polycarp
The homosexual lobby has lost any claim to the moral, and I use the word advisedly, high ground by seeking laws which define themselves as a protected and special group before the law. Their cause would have been better presented by appealing for better enforcement of equal protection under law. Conservatives would have supported this.

As for marriage a lot of people would support some sort of civil union. Surely the huge homosexual lobby has the resources to research and create legal documents, which would provide same sex couples with all the commitments and legal protections of a marriage. It could be called anything they like, but they can’t call it marriage, for it is not one.

The larger move by homosexuals from seeking tolerance to seeking celebration and special protection of their lifestyle will only energize the moral majority of America.

36 posted on 08/05/2003 2:42:47 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Polycarp
A male boinking another man in the pooper is not something I will ever be accepting of.
Regardless of what the public relations state, the bible says that a man should not lay down with another man.
Therefore it is wrong.
Liberal crap and acceptance be damned.
37 posted on 08/05/2003 2:48:12 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Polycarp; scripter
Bump & Ping

42 posted on 08/05/2003 4:22:17 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Polycarp
"The homosexual movement has a history of trying to claw its way into places its agenda doesn’t belong, not for the betterment of mankind, but simply to legitimize and normalize perverse behavior. This is apparent in the all-too-common need of homosexuals to declare their sexuality rather than simply do the job they sign on to do.

This is extremely detrimental - first, it creates conflict with others as most believe homosexuality to be wrong, and it shows that the full efforts of the employed homosexual are not going towards performing the task at hand but largely to declaring their lifestyle. When it comes to serious concerns such as the Church, schools, and the Boy Scouts that involve our children, we can’t take the risk of giving them this power to destroy the values we as parents try to instill, nor can we put our country’s welfare at stake by turning these pivotal foundational institutions and our military into homosexual social experiments.

The homosexual movement is marked by two major tendencies: the tendency to continually infiltrate all good aspects of society; and once they have achieved that, the tendency to destroy this good. Public education, the Boy Scouts, the military, and now the Catholic Church have been targeted, and all have been hurt by the effects of homosexuality. The media and the Church must break its silence towards this enemy. If they do not, the people themselves must rise up and expose it..."

-- Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, Homosexual Priests: A Time for Truth, The Washington Dispatch, May 6, 2002



51 posted on 08/05/2003 7:50:17 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Polycarp
But if millions watch Will & Grace, millions more are appalled by it; that's the nature of niche marketing.....well, now your children can bond with piece of $hit show when they get home from school this semester. It plays on Direct TV's WGN at 3:30 while your still at work. Think the media whore's didn't plan it that way?????????????
52 posted on 08/11/2003 8:51:26 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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