An impending religious persecution in Canada? & Legal warning to church on gay stance [Ireland]

Enter Stage Right/ The Irish Times ^ | 8/4/03 | Pete Vere & Liam Reid

[Polycarp]

Legal warning to church on gay stance

Legal warning to church on gay stance

Liam Reid
02/08/2003

Clergy and bishops who distribute the Vatican's latest publication describing homosexual activity as "evil" could face prosecution under incitement to hatred legislation.

The Irish Council for Civil Liberties (ICCL) has warned that the language in the 12-page booklet is so strong it could be interpreted as being in breach of the Act.

Published by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, it states that Catholics have a duty to oppose the introduction and operation of legislation recognising same-sex unions. It identifies politicians as having a duty to vote against any such moves.

According to the document, Catholic teaching states that while homosexuals should be treated with "respect, compassion and sensitivity", homosexuality was "objectively disordered".

"Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimisation of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalisation of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil," it states.

It also claims that allowing children to be adopted into same-sex unions would mean "doing violence to these children". This would place them "in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development".

Ms Aisling Reidy, director of the ICCL, warned yesterday that the statement could be in violation of the 1989 Incitement to Hatred Act. Those convicted under the Act can face jail terms of up to six months.

"The document itself may not violate the Act, but if you were to use the document to say that gays are evil, it is likely to give rise to hatred, which is against the Act," according to Ms Reidy. "The wording is very strong and certainly goes against the spirit of the legislation."

Under the Act literature which is threatening, abusive or insulting, linked with the intent of stirring up hatred, is illegal.

© The Irish Times

[Polycarp]

This may be THE issue that ushers in the persecution of the Church.

(If your church is not being persecuted in the coming wave of hatred, flee that church. It is apostate.)

[Bigg Red]

If your church is not being persecuted in the coming wave of hatred, flee that church. It is apostate.

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Well said.

I'm a little scared, but I know you are a brave defender of our Faith.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[polemikos]

Would it be fair to say that this trend is a side effect of sola scriptura?

[appalachian_dweller]

>> ‘The Charter of Rights trumps the Bible.' <<

Sickening. Man is he going to choke on those words come Judgment Day.

[Sloth]

Why doesn't Canada split into an eastern French-style country & a western American-style country?

[wideawake]

It has been tried and very nearly happened. The dilemma is that the French-speaking electorate now realizes that they need the English-speaking electorate's tax revenues to survive.

[concerned about politics]

‘It's sickening, it's obnoxious and it's got to stop.'

And a man lusting after another mans hairy anus is not?
"Woe to those who call evil good, and call good evil." -- Christ.
Prophacy said the liberal legions would be attempting to do this as we come closer to the end of the age. Israel becomming a nation once more started the count down, and Satan knows he has but little time to destroy as many souls as he can. Satan and his liberal legions have been working over time.
The church was warned over 2000 years ago that they were comming. They never should have let Satan in the door. They should have stuck clearly with the words givin to them by the Alpha-Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Great Star of David. They now sow what they have reaped.

[.45MAN]

Let's hope that we are ready for this. You are right this could be the beginning of the end... The true and faithful will be counted in small numbers.

[concerned about politics]

It also claims that allowing children to be adopted into same-sex unions would mean "doing violence to these children". This would place them "in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development".

Yeh. There's no "diversity." According to the sodomites themselves, children cannot live in a world that's not "diverse" enough.

[concerned about politics]

Let's hope that we are ready for this. You are right this could be the beginning of the end... The true and faithful will be counted in small numbers.

That's what the rapture is for. Imagine a world without the rightous restrainers. Sin will abound, and those left to live through it will recieve no aid.

[Aquinasfan]

‘The Charter of Rights trumps the Bible.'"

Maybe in this world. But I wouldn't count on its protection in the next.

Is persecution of Catholics coming? The notion doesn't seem so far-fetched anymore.

[Polycarp]

Still think it can't happen here?

Still think Santorum was wrong?

Still think its only about what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom?

Still have the unmitigated gall to imply that anyone who opposed the SCOTUS decision "just wants to lock up homos"?

You, along with all the other FReepers who denigrated those who opposed Lawrence and supported Santorum, were wrong then, as each passing day and international headline proves over and over.

You all have got a lot of apologies to make. But I doubt they'll be forthcoming.

(BTW, I'd hate to go to judgement knowing I blew it on the single most important issue of my generation. Especially as an ordained minister of the Church.)

[Polycarp]

Hate to disappoint you, but if suffering was good enough for Jesus Christ, its good enough for us too. There's no biblical evidence to support this phony, recently invented fantasy of a "Rapture" in the fashion the myth-tellers of fundamental protestantism have conjured up.

[concerned about politics]

Hate to disappoint you, but if suffering was good enough for Jesus Christ, its good enough for us too. There's no biblical evidence to support this phony, recently invented fantasy of a "Rapture" in the fashion the myth-tellers of fundamental protestantism have conjured up.

"There will be scoffers in those days, saying 'Where is the promose of his comming'?"

[Semper Paratus]

"Welcome to Canada. Do you have any contraband?

No Sir all I have are my clothes and this Bible.

Put your hands on your head and step out of the car!"

[Polycarp]

LOL! I believe He is coming too, so find another supposedly applicable derogatory proof text. I deny the Rapture the way you think it will happen according to YOPIOS, not the Second Coming.

[sinkspur]

Feel better? Your sneering contempt oozes through the screen, Brian, in this post, as in so many others with which you pollute this forum.

You distort my views, as usual, but it's more important for you to jump offside in your glee to try to show me up.

You're a kid, Brian, a kid eaten up with hate.

You'd better deal with it before it breaks out in violence.

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

People of faith should prepare themselves for the coming inquisition.