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Prosecutors say Kobe lied to authorities
Phildaelphia Inquirer ^ | July 31, 2003 | GEORGE MERRITT & CHRIS FRATES

Posted on 07/31/2003 7:54:22 AM PDT by Recourse

Posted on Thu, Jul. 31, 2003

Prosecutors say Kobe lied to authorities

Report: D.A.'s case will focus on injuries, 'inconsistencies' in statements

By GEORGE MERRITT & CHRIS FRATES Denver Post

EAGLE, Colo. - Prosecutors will argue that basketball star Kobe Bryant and his 19-year-old accuser had some consensual sexual contact, but the intercourse was not consensual, unnamed sources have told ABC News.

Sources also told ABC the prosecution will argue Bryant "deceived law-enforcement officials and that he gave inconsistent statements."

District Attorney Mark Hurlbert deferred questions to a spokeswoman, who would not comment on the report.

Hurlbert, however, has said there was "alleged sexual penetration or intrusion" and that Bryant caused "submission of the victim through actual physical force."

Hurlbert charged Bryant July 18 with one count of felony sexual assault after the woman, an employee at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, accused the Los Angeles Lakers star of sexual assault stemming from a June 30 incident at the resort.

After he was charged, Bryant admitted to having sex with the woman, but he maintained the sex was consensual.

Still, Denver trial lawyer Craig Silverman said it may not matter if Bryant lied to investigators.

"I don't think it means a lot," Silverman said. "In the post-Bill Clinton era it's not surprising that a married man would lie about a martial infidelity."

Bryant was in Colorado for a scheduled knee surgery when the incident occurred. He was contacted by the Eagle County Sheriff's office on July 1 and submitted DNA samples at a local hospital. He was arrested July 4.

If convicted, Bryant faces four years to life in prison. He is scheduled to appear in court Wednesday, though it is unclear whether he will be there in person or whether a representative will appear on his behalf.

The judge in the case, Frederick Gannett, warned news organizations yesterday not to publish or broadcast the name or photograph of any witness, juror, potential juror or the alleged victim and her family on the courthouse grounds. Any organization violating the order could be denied a seat in the courtroom.

Gannett will hear arguments today on whether the records should be made public.

Attorneys for media organizations - including the Los Angeles Times, Denver Post and NBC - have argued that many details have been publicized already.

Hurlbert and defense lawyers want to keep the records sealed, arguing that publicity could affect Bryant's right to a fair trial. Defense attorneys Pamela Mackey and Hal Haddon also have asked Gannett to reconsider an earlier order allowing cameras in the courtroom during next week's hearing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: bryant; kobe; kobebryant; lies; rape
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To: Jrabbit; Howlin; wardaddy; jimbo123; aristeides; pokerbuddy0
Interesting things in this article. Post it if you like. Or watch "Greta" - she might talk about it, though endlessly.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=545&ncid=755&e=1&u=/ap/20030731/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bkn_bryant_case
Bryant Loses Bid to Skip Colo. Court Date
261 posted on 07/31/2003 4:04:26 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: wardaddy
Quite a guy, you are!
262 posted on 07/31/2003 4:31:37 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: dwd1
I will concede that I was expecting other women to come out...

Sure. So they too can be called sluts?

263 posted on 07/31/2003 4:37:46 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Good point...I had not thought of that.
264 posted on 07/31/2003 5:30:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (True happiness is nuts after the flop.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I'm just a fortunate son.
265 posted on 07/31/2003 5:30:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (True happiness is nuts after the flop.)
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To: wardaddy
LOL.
266 posted on 07/31/2003 5:32:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: aristeides
Think about it, Whether Kobe is convicted or not that ring is a moneymaker on E-bay. It probably won't make up for the lost endorsement money but it should buy plenty of Escalades, blow and bimbos for a few years after his release from the minimum security prison if he's convicted. Even if he walks the ring is still worth twice what he paid for it because it's the "one ring".
267 posted on 07/31/2003 5:38:23 PM PDT by The Squid
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To: aristeides
We dont know
268 posted on 07/31/2003 6:55:42 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: ladyjane
Depends on what you are looking for...I would be looking for women who can attest to Kobe making advances, rejecting his advances, and stating what his behavior was...

That would be of great interest...Otherwise, she gets her 15 minutes and is told to go somewhere and have a nice day...
269 posted on 07/31/2003 7:09:00 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: Recourse
"In the post-Bill Clinton era it's not surprising that a married man would lie about a martial infidelity."

Some even lie about infidelities here on this planet.

271 posted on 08/01/2003 12:06:21 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: dwd1
Well, I wonder about the gag order that was issued by a judge last Friday and how this got out...

Maybe it was Kobe giving gag orders, and that's what got him into this trouble...

273 posted on 08/01/2003 12:07:33 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Bluntpoint
Diamonds are Forever...

Or At Least 10 to 20...

274 posted on 08/01/2003 12:09:49 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: dwd1
I wonder if the women on this forum have an opinion...

Here's mine: If the couple has begun intercourse (or other serious sexual act) and the woman suddenly says no, stop, I believe the man should stop. However, if the act has gone on for more than a few minutes, assuming she is fully conscious, before she asks him to stop, then she has already tacitly provided her consent to the act and can no longer call anything that happens "rape" unless he physically begins to use violence to restrain her.

In other words, the man "trying" something on her with no immediate refusal from the woman may assume consent. This should be a given.

Any time a woman wants a man to stop the act (or vice versa for the man), he should. However, if the act was begun for two minutes without comment, while he should still stop once asked, if he doesn't immediately stop it is too much of a grey area to be called rape. It becomes ridiculous to prove consent or not at that point.

275 posted on 08/01/2003 12:33:43 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: redlipstick
Like the T-shirts. "My hubby raped a chick and all I got was this ring and this new Benz"
276 posted on 08/01/2003 12:38:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: cyncooper
"The way ABC radio reported it at 10 am my time (I was listening to Rush) the call on July 3 was placed from Bryant's home and there was a hang up so the dispatcher called back."

It is my understanding that Police MUST respond to 911 calls. So it is POSSIBLE they visited Kobe and Vanessa's residence, in Newport Coast.

There would be a Police Report of the incident. Just looking at possible evidence, for the trial.

This will apply to 911 calls, for both parties. I have no idea about policies for different cities, states.

Just DO know that in my town, I was told they would roll, EVEN on a hangup.

The reason is that they DON'T know for what reason the call was placed, until they respond and investigate. It could be a robbery or domestic violence, in progress.

So DON'T look forward to the PD saying "We didn't go to the address, because they hung up."
277 posted on 08/01/2003 1:07:43 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: samuel_adams_us
She did and they did the dirty the normal way but she became upset when Kobe wanted to back door her. The next morning, while the accuser was at home, she told her mother what had happened and her mother is the first one to mention the word rape.

OK...that detail is NOT in the link that you provided. Where did that come from?

278 posted on 08/01/2003 3:13:01 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Where did that come from?

It is the purest rumor and speculation. It had been mentioned on Drudge's website as well as WFAN sports radio in New York, obviously without the benefit of named sources.

279 posted on 08/01/2003 3:41:48 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: wardaddy
I am of the opinion though that she could have gone the money route without the DA....even though that is technically illegal, it is common in many legal conflicts where someone has been harmed truly or not by someone with fame and money. The "buy off". Think Michael Jackson.

I'm not sure it would have been illegal. Unless the victim is under some legal obligation to report that she has been assaulted, which I don't think she is. She would have to walk a very fine line to avoid being guilty of blackmail, but there is nothing wrong with having your lawyer contact someone with the message, "My client feels you have harmed her. Here are the alleged facts. She is contemplating a civil suit to recover damages, but would like to avoid doing so if possible. Are you willing to meet to discuss a settlement?"

280 posted on 08/01/2003 5:09:25 AM PDT by Brandon
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