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They (Saudi Arabia) Are Against Us **semi-must read**
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| Wednesday, July 30, 2003
| By Ken Adelman
Posted on 07/30/2003 8:28:50 AM PDT by dennisw
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; alqaedasaudiarabia; kenadelman; saudiarabia
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:28:50 AM PDT
by
dennisw
To: dennisw
The answer as to why the Administration is hiding Saudi evidence is this...
We know the Saudis bankrolled the terrorists. The Saudis know that we know. We know the Saudis know that we know.
Basically, we have them by the short hairs. Between defending the kingdom in 1991 and evidence of 9/11 financing, the Saudis will do what we want. And this is an important strategy for our current situation in the Middle East. As long as we have Saudi support, Bush can continue his policy of transforming the Middle East into something our children will never have to worry about.
Thirty years from now, when there is peace in the middle east and terrorism is nothing but a bad memory, the information will be released. Until then, let's trust our leaders to use this classified information as leverage in one of the most important foreign policy plans in the history of the nation.
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:37:22 AM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(When news breaks, we fix it.)
To: dennisw
Memo to Bob Graham: If we find out that we should have taken Saudi Arabia rather than Afghanistan following 9/11, now that may be grounds for impeachment!
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:38:11 AM PDT
by
onedoug
To: dennisw
The House of Saud supports terrorists and is our enemy???
WHA-WHA-WHA-WHAAAAAATTT?!?!?!
Owl_Eagle
Unleash the Hogs of Peace.
P.J. O'Rourke Parliament of Whores
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:45:59 AM PDT
by
End Times Sentinel
("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
To: dennisw
That's why this link is so important. If we can get the funding to get this project going; Saudi Arabia can take their oil and go to hell. Imagine, producing oil, gas, kerosine using lawn clippings, old tires, waste, dead animals and just about anything you can see.
Oh, and here's the kicker. We can make our own crude for $10-15 per barrel instead of giving OPEC $30.
It's not science fiction anymore ....
http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:46:52 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: dennisw
One of the most despicable things about the Saudis is the way they won't release children of American women.
To: onedoug
you think that we should have left the taliban in place and bin laden and hussein by going against a group of religous fanatics inside of a country where our military is in place?
I'm not sure that reasoning will hold up. In addition you may not want to cut off the oil going to europe while our s. american oil is in trouble. In other words a little borad game called strategy might help to explain what is going on.
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:49:14 AM PDT
by
q_an_a
To: Lunatic Fringe
The Democrats are whining, "Why did we go into Iraq at all? And why did we RUSH things? Why did it have to happen when it did?"
The Saudis, the left and the right are screaming: "Why are there 28 blacked-out pages in the 9/11 report? What are you trying to hide?"
Here's my hairbrained theory (which may or may not be proven true in time):
We were going to take care of Saddam anyway. He was not in compliance. He never was going to. But we may have stepped on the accelerator a little, to speed things up. Why? Because we KNEW we had at least 28 pages' worth of particularly damning evidence against the Saudi's, and how they bankrolled the cutthroats who vaporized 3000 of our countrymen 1.5 years ago. We wanted to get into Iraq, make sure the oil would start flowing again (without simply generating wealth that cemented a bloody Baathist dictator in power). When the oil is flowing freely out of Iraq, we can then reveal to all the world how dirty the Saudis hands are. If they get mad and retaliate by cutting off some of our oil imports, well, we've already got a new supplier in place (plus the price per barrrel has probably dropped by then anyway).
Conspiracy theory? I don't think so. Just good timing and shrewd strategery.
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:57:29 AM PDT
by
Choose Ye This Day
(http://thetaoofthedow.blogspot.com)
To: q_an_a
It could be viewed as cutting out the heart rather than hacking at the limbs.
We take the oil. And drive the filthy Wahab princes into abject poverty.
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:00:30 AM PDT
by
onedoug
To: Lunatic Fringe
Here's the kicker - it's THE HOUSE OF SAUD that wants the information released! They, and the Dems are pressuring the White House to release the info - now, why do they want the info so badly? Why did they send a delegation to the U.S. to pressure Bush to declassify and release it to them?
I think Bush is doing the right thing to hold the info, and if the Saudis and Dems are crying foul, then that PROVES it...
To: dennisw
Well, were not Jakarta or Kiev. Someone should remind the Saudis of that. Our government cannot be bought. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
To: Mr. Jeeves
Our government cannot be bought.
That bit made me laugh pretty hard too. What turnip truck did this guy just fall off of?
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:10:26 AM PDT
by
mr.pink
To: dennisw
Thats why the Wahabbi Lobby has such influence in Washington
Why they are building mosques and islamic centers across the USA
and why the Army Corps of Engineers is helping to build an islmamic "summer" camp
in northern Iowa
They are here to conquer American culture and turn it into islamic culture..
Period!
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:10:54 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: Lunatic Fringe
Until then, let's trust our leaders to use this classified information as leverage in one of the most important foreign policy plans in the history of the nation.Agreed. As I wrote to Fox & Friends this morning:
W is a Texas poker player. How do we know if his concern about the 28 pages is what it DOESN'T say? He's not going to show his hand to our enemies, and it looks like it is working. Saudi Arabia has just offered access for an interview again of the CAP chief who gave money to the hijackers. To declassify now would be to reveal everything we know. Better to keep them guessing. Their nervousness shows that they are worried about what this report contains.
To: afraidfortherepublic
That should have said, "It looks like his STATEGERY is working!"
To: dennisw
Senior officials of Saudi Arabia have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to charitable groups and other organizations that may have helped finance the September 2001 attacks, a still-classified section of a Congressional report on the hijackings says, according to people who have read it. Bump for truth...
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:31:50 AM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
("Leave Pat, Leave!")
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: MNLDS
Ding! Obviously as long as we're as dependent as we are on foreign oil, THEY have US by the short hairs. Freeing Iraq is necessary on the terrorism front, and necessary for promoting freedom in the Middle East, but in terms of pure geopolitics it's about ensuring that the Sauds are disposable.
All three are in our interest as well as the interest of the people of the Middle East (altho not in the interest of the ruling classes of the Islamic states).
I read this MEMRI report on the jihadis the other day:
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR1903 and the telling point was this:
"Asked how he explained the Iraqis' joy at Saddam's fall, Sheikh Shu'fat replied: "This is a message to the Arab rulers that they must make peace with their people and give them more freedom, so the people will unite with the armies in resistance to the colonialist aggression
I do not feel sorrow for any Arab ruler who is brought down."
Sure he's caught up in this "colonialism" BS but the light is beginning to turn on even in the minds of would-be martyrs. By the time we'll want to remove the House of Saud the people of UAE will do it for us.
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:54:27 AM PDT
by
No.6
To: dennisw
From the article: "Our government cannot be bought."
ROFLMAO!!!
Carolyn
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posted on
07/30/2003 9:56:09 AM PDT
by
CDHart
To: Brad Cloven
Senior officials of Saudi Arabia have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to charitable groups and other organizations that may have helped finance the September 2001 attacks, a still-classified section of a Congressional report on the hijackings says, according to people who have read it.IMHO, they better pinpoint who is leaking classified information to the media and prosecute them. Also, there is something really wrong with this picture...the Saudis and the Dems in bed together? What's up with that?
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