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Immigration, Multiculturalism & Islam in Sweden - Out of Control
Sydsvenskan ^ | 1 june 2003 | Lars Ã…berg

Posted on 07/28/2003 5:30:25 PM PDT by Eurotwit

More than 20 thousand people live in Rosengard (Suburb of Malmoe - Swedens third largest city). They are very diverse, but many of them share a common affliction: They live outside their society despite living in its midst.

Lars Aberg reports from this abandoned territory. This is the first in a series of three articles.

The first a visitor to Rosengard meets is security personnel guardian a school. Is this a different world, where construction workers have to protected from the school children, or is it a collapse in the civil society?

When there is a fire at the local mosque, the police have to protect the firemen from groups of grown up attackers. Is this a different planet?...

This communal impulse for self destruction - which among other things also is characterised by stone throwing against local buses and threats against milk distributors as well as garbage collectors - illustrates huge dividing gap which cannot be explained away with charges of discrimination and exclusion....

(Excerpt) Read more at w1.sydsvenskan.se ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
do these nations deport some of these people? I have read articles about the same problems in france and in some areas the local french white girls cannot go outside unless they wear a burqua or they risk being raped and murdered
21 posted on 07/28/2003 6:07:36 PM PDT by freedom man4534
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To: Lizavetta
They are SO AFRAID of being called racist or intolerant that nobody is, on the surface at least, concerned about the collapse of Denmark.

That sounds familiar. Despite the millions of illegal aliens in the US few speak up for fear of being labeled. The West has a death wish apparently.

22 posted on 07/28/2003 6:11:21 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Savage Beast
Well Denmark has tried to make some initial adjustments to their immigration policy, but off course they are being attacked by Amnesty, human rights watch, the UN, and the EU. Not to mention by the Swedish Social democrats...

It almost started a serious diplomatic row last year between the two countries.

Daniel Pipes wrote an interesting article on it:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450

"A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that garnered wide international notice. Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution. Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.

Other Europeans (such as the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland) have also grown alarmed about these issues, but Danes were the first to make them the basis for a change in government."





In my opinion, the combination of excessive welfare states and unlimited immigfration is a recipe for disaster.

24 posted on 07/28/2003 6:12:54 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
The first official dead canary in the coal mine known as 'Islamic Europe'?
25 posted on 07/28/2003 6:13:51 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Eurotwit
The (Western) Europeans are going to pay for not letting the Israelis Destroy the Palestinians once and for all...
26 posted on 07/28/2003 6:14:14 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Lizavetta
and France, and Germany, and England

And Holland and Belgium. There are some areas of Rotterdam and Antwerp that are "no go" areas for Dutch, Flemish, or Walloons (i.e., Europeans) because any such entering these areas are "asking" (if you'll pardon the expression) to be physically set on and harmed.

27 posted on 07/28/2003 6:16:04 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("Jag tycke inte om det!")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
And in countries like France they have ICBM's, too. Nice thought, huh? An Islamofascist state with ICBM's...fun times ahead.

If Europe doesn't address the onslaught of Islam they are going to find themselves all put to the sword in another twenty years or so.

28 posted on 07/28/2003 6:18:41 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: McGavin999
Where the hell did the Vikings go? Who are these Scandanavians intimidated by Arabs and Muslims. These were once strong fierce people, I came from large family of them. What happened? Why is diversity and socialism such a wonderful thing? It is sad, very, very sad.
29 posted on 07/28/2003 6:20:13 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (I agree with Dick Morris, "Off with their heads" Let's start with the Clintons, all 3 of them.)
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To: Map Kernow
in some areas in france white girls cannot go out without wearing burqas or they risk being raped and murdered
30 posted on 07/28/2003 6:22:03 PM PDT by freedom man4534
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To: Lizavetta
kind of sounds like what's (beginning to...) happening here???

Juan
31 posted on 07/28/2003 6:23:06 PM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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To: freedom man4534
do these nations deport some of these people? I have read articles about the same problems in france and in some areas the local french white girls cannot go outside unless they wear a burqua or they risk being raped and murdered

Yes I did read recently that France had begun deporting criminal Muslim aliens finally. If they've recognized there's a problem, things must be getting bad.

And in Holland, Dutch girls have been singled out for rape as well. But policies have been getting revised there too, so maybe there's hope yet.

32 posted on 07/28/2003 6:25:10 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Hildy
Not so very many years ago was it? I read Camp of the Saints about 3 years ago and at the time I read it, it seemed a bit far-fetched...no longer.
33 posted on 07/28/2003 6:25:14 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: Eurotwit
Having regularly visited Malmo every year to see my grandparents, I believe that the article (or the section you translated) is an understatement.
As far as I can tell, the only new school in all of Skane is Muslim.
I'm afraid every time that I am there. I'm not sure why I would be attacked, for being America or Jewish?
You Scandinavians better start having large families, or all is lost.
34 posted on 07/28/2003 6:27:59 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Lizavetta
Till those who call themselves conservative can overcome the supreme weapon of the Left the "racist" lable there will in effect be no conservative movement.
35 posted on 07/28/2003 6:29:38 PM PDT by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
Nice thought, huh? An Islamofascist state with ICBM's...fun times ahead.

That's about as frightening as it gets. And yes I agree, if and when Muslims become a majority in any European country, it will be their way or the highway, freedom is not a word in their dictionary.

36 posted on 07/28/2003 6:33:45 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Hildy
Everybody on this forum must read CAMP OF THE SAINTS. This was predicted for Western Civilization many years ago.

Be careful! You just might get banned from FR for promoting this kind of literature. It doesn't fit in with the Bush administration's plan to bring in our own third world "diversity" from south of the border and elsewhere.

37 posted on 07/28/2003 6:36:00 PM PDT by clockwork
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To: Eurotwit; piasa; backhoe; HAL9000; Stand Watch Listen; FairOpinion
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38 posted on 07/28/2003 6:37:42 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: junta
Exactly - if anyone here (Ontario) had the guts to print this stuff, they would be charged with hate.

I believe that most Canadians (and U.S.ers) are not aware of what is going on in Europe. I didn't know until I read the articles posted here.

Too bad we can't get these published in our papers, people need to know what is happening.
39 posted on 07/28/2003 6:42:21 PM PDT by scriblett
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To: Eurotwit
There is a lot of movement against the Socialist Democratic agenda in Sweden---see Timbro or here for the English version... See also the Stockholm Network.

For the non-Europeans and the uninitiated reading these links: liberal in these cases is what is referred to in the States as "classical liberal", i.e. free-market.

There is some movement in Norway as well, but I can't remember the names of the players or the organizations there...

40 posted on 07/28/2003 6:49:33 PM PDT by austinTparty
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