Vanity - Kid at Church bragging about the BIG money he's making at his new job.

Myself | 7/28/03 | Onelifetogive

[Onelifetogive]

Recently at Church, I was in a discussion where a young man (early 20's) was talking about his new job "selling" health insurance. He said he was making in a day what his wife makes in a month. What was he selling?? Nothing. He was "giving away" health insurance. His job was to find people who qualified for Medicare, and convince the to "join" his plan.

He said he would find people with private insurance of the same type (He mentioned Blue Cross,) convince them to drop the private insurance, keep the premiums for themselves, and accept his "free" plan. I was cordial...but steaming. The taxpayers pay him BIG MONEY to convince people to drop private insurance and accept a "government handout".

[Onelifetogive]

Chaps my hide!!!

[NoNewTaleToTell]

Pretty soon he'll be selling a prescrption drug handout brought to you by the GOP

[cmsgop]

Bump!

[Arthur McGowan]

Compassionate Conservatism.

[Onelifetogive]

Are you sure he's not selling a zero monthly premium HMO plan?

I am sure of very little!

He mentioned "Seniors First."

[VOA]

bump for exposure

[BushCountry]

Every school in the nation goes out of its way to qualify (recruit) students for free lunches. That way get more federal funds for being a school that services the poor.

[libertarian guy]

That frog Bastiat was right all along.

[dark_lord]

Presumably this Seniors First????

They are hiring sales agents. I don't know about "free" care -- looks like their deal is selling long term care.

[Onelifetogive]

They are hiring sales agents. I don't know about "free" care -- looks like their deal is selling long term care.

???

[dark_lord]

I responded because you mentioned "Seniors First" -- so I did a web search and found such and organization.

[whipitgood]

Jesus said, "My Father's house is a house of prayer" when He threw the moneylenders out of the temple. Talking (and especially boasting) about money in church is a BIG red flag to me, both for those who allow/encourage it and for those who do it. Check out the third commandment, ask why you REALLY claim His name.

[MissEdie]

Oh don't I know it! As a public school teacher it gripes my @#$ to see parents drive up to school in their $45,000 SUV's to pick their children up - who eat BREAKFAST and LUNCH on us. These kids have more expensive clothes than the teachers do. P.S. it's not a free lunch - we pay for it.

[RaceBannon]

I need a job, have him call me with his employers address and pho

[BushCountry]

There is no such thing as free lunch! That was part of my point, that if government waste is an issue imagine how many millions upon millions are wasted on the free lunch program.

[c-b 1]

As a public school teacher it gripes my @#$ to see parents drive up to school in their $45,000 SUV's to pick their children up - who eat BREAKFAST and LUNCH on us. These kids have more expensive clothes than the teachers do. P.S. it's not a free lunch - we pay for it.

That was happening in the late 70s when my kids were in grade school, the school tried to get us to sign up for it, my wife told them we don't take handouts from the government.

[rube]

The Senior's First site that you linked to provides a long term care health insurance policy which is underwritten by an insurance company. It is private insurance paid for out of pocket by the person applying.

The young man who is bragging about removing people from a bona fide medicare supplement plan in order to enroll them in a free plan does them no justice. By removing them from their private plan he is disenrolling them from medicare and enrolling them into a medicare HMO which may or may not have a premium. Yep, it is cheaper for them out of pocket, but their health care is extremely restricted ie they have to go through a primary care physician to get their care, and if they need specialized care they must be referred to a specialist. When can they get an appointment? By the way if their HMO is in Florida and they get sick in Ohio (non life threatening) they may or may not have their claim covered.

The bottom line is this. For every person a medicare HMO enrolls they are paid a per capita amount of money per month by the federal government. I'm not sure of the current dollars, but it used to be on the order of $600 per month per enrollee... each and every month. If an enrollee is healthy, its found money. But, when they are sick they get less than adequate care IMO.

Here in Florida a rather large colorful company made a big to do several years ago when they rolled out their Medicare HMO. In 2002 they discontinued it leaving thousands of seniors out in the cold. Not a problem if they are in good health and can qualify for supplemental coverage with a private company. But if they are in poor health they are SOL.

Tell the kid to remember: what goes around comes around. And that in the long we are all paying for it.

[rube]

By the way, I'm not an expert, nor do I play one on tv. I know just enough to make me really dangerous.

I'm sure we have others here that are more qualified than I am to get really technical about this particular scam so I will defer to them.

[eggman]

Should have asked him whether he would enroll a family member or family friend in this insurance. If he answers no then ask him why he is so happy to be making these old people worse off than they were. If he answers yes then ask him why he thinks he is being well paid to give something of value away.

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.