California Senate OKs 'gender identity' bill [Hey guy, Nice dress]

SF Chronicle ^ | July 25, 2003 | Jim Herron Zamora

[ZGuy]

A divided state Senate voted along party lines Thursday for a bill banning discrimination against people whose "gender identity" is different from their biological sex at birth.

Assembly Bill 196, if signed by the governor, would provide sweeping new rights to transsexuals. It was approved 23-11 with six senators either not voting or not present.

[ZGuy]

This is a return of last year’s “Hey Mister, nice dress.” This bill prohibits any employer, including school administrators and non-profit organizations such as churches, from disallowing any employee to come to work dressed in any manner that best expresses that person’s “gender identity" even if that person changes which gender they identify with every other day.

In essence, this means that a 200-pound, bearded male could come to work dressed in high heels and a dress, and the employer could not send him home to change. To do so would be an act of discrimination punishable with a fine of up to $150,000 per occurrence.

Other acts of discrimination includes looks or glances which could be interpreted as non-acceptance by the cross-dressser.

The bill is currently on Gray Davis' desk awating his signature.

[eccentric]

While these guys are re-writing the language, why can't they come up with a non-gender pronoun? When I was in school, 30-40 years ago, the grammer books stated that male pronouns like 'he', included 'she.' Then the feminist came along and took females out of the male pronouns. Personally, I liked being a part of "Where no Man Has Gone Before."

[Malesherbes]

Now that this problem (excuse me, I meant "issue") is solved, maybe the Senators will have time to turn their attention to the state's bankruptcy.

[GrandMoM]

In essence, this means that a 200-pound, bearded male could come to work dressed in high heels and a dress, and the employer could not send him home to change.

....my husband and I were talking about this the other night and he said he would have no problem hiring some one like this.

He said he would just send them out on a delivery of a pool table to a house where the table was to be placed on a second or third floor.

Can you just invision a guy in heels carrying a 300 pound piece slate up two or three floors?

Surely he would leave the next day, don't ya think!!!!!!

[jocko12]

ANOTHER QUEER BILL!!!!

[jimt]

" A person's gender identity has nothing to do with their ability to pay rent or to act as a competent employee, and we should not tolerate such arbitrary discrimination. "

This is one of the most ridiculous contentions I've ever heard.

[Cicero]

Well, good to see that Gray Davis and the legislature are dealing with the important issues at this time of crisis.

[GrandMoM]

....watch for Gay Davis to sign every piece of Gay BS he can before we get him out of office!!!!!

[BlessedByLiberty]

Be prepared - Davis and the Lib Legislature are going to go crazy pandering to every crazy interest group they can find. Mexifornia is a real possibility between now and October 7th.

[Prysson]

My thoughts exactly...what a bunch of jokers.

[EdReform]

Ping

[Question_Assumptions]

The next step, of course, will be the insistence that they can use the restrooms and other facilities for their chosen "gender".

[ZGuy]

That's not the next step, that's this step. Under this bill you can not in any way object to or disapprove of a person using any restroom they wish as long as they say they identify with that gender at the time they are using the restroom. To do so would be considered discriminatory and subject to a fine.

[mtbopfuyn]

Dang, isn't CA ever going to fall into the ocean?

[ZGuy]

Actually just getting rid of the major metropolitan areas near the coast would do it. The rest of California is OK. "THE MAP" illustrates this :

[Old Professer]

And they are content to stop with the governor?

What sort of madness prevails?

[mtbopfuyn]

Actually just getting rid of the major metropolitan areas near the coast would do it.

Hmm, pretty much along the west side of the San Andreas Fault. Even Mother Nature is a Republican.

[scripter]

Busy day, ping.

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[Clint N. Suhks]

If the bill is signed into law, California would join New Mexico, Rhode Island and Minnesota in offering such protections.

Four places not to do business in or reside.

[ScrtAccess]

Just curious, how so? You don't think the discrimination exists or you don't think the person is entitled to be protected from discrimination if it does exist?