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NEW O.D. SHOCK ON KOBE ACCUSER
New York Post ^ | 7/25/03 | BARRY BORTNICK and DAN MANGAN

Posted on 07/25/2003 1:06:57 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:15:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Smogger
Kobe got his wish, the judge issued a gag order. The hotel employees are told not to talk to the press or they will be fired. To me that is a gag order.
201 posted on 07/25/2003 12:14:24 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: BushCountry
The hotel employees are told not to talk to the press or they will be fired. To me that is a gag order.

Source?

202 posted on 07/25/2003 12:15:51 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: KeyWest
Other side is Kobe took advantage of an "emotionally fragile" woman.

In order for Kobe to have had taken advantage of an "emotionally fragile" woman, Kobe would have had to have known in advance that the woman was "emotionally fragile".

203 posted on 07/25/2003 12:16:49 PM PDT by usadave
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To: kevao
He claims that every one of us on this thread, including me, has no idea what we’re talking about.

You must have read where I stated this several times during this post alone. However, as I said before, my information was newspaper accounts and first hand accounts of news stories. But, I would like to know the truth and the evidence in the case, so I can make a informed judgement. It is the Kobebots that are destroying this girl prematurely and viciously, I am taking her defense only because she might be telling the truth and if she is, it is a crime what they are doing to her.

204 posted on 07/25/2003 12:19:43 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: Smogger
Source = Common sense

This is an exclusive hotel, several employees made statements early. There are no statements coming from employees now. I also am familar with the way hotel management thinks. They do not want Kobe to come after them, be reasonable.
205 posted on 07/25/2003 12:22:53 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: BushCountry
It is the Kobebots that are destroying this girl prematurely and viciously, I am taking her defense only because she might be telling the truth and if she is, it is a crime what they are doing to her.

How is that? Do any of us live in Eagle, CO? Did anyone here goto school with her? Has she been at a party at your house lately? I suppose the Chief of Campus police and her former roommate all have axes to grind with this girl? Please...

You can believe that the media is feverishly searching for whaterver dirt they can dig up on Kobe. They could give a shit about either participate as long as it makes a good story. The fact is that so far they haven't found anything... I amazed that they can't even locate a woman willing to make something up about Kobe. I suspect it's only a matter or time though.

206 posted on 07/25/2003 12:26:15 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: BushCountry
This is an exclusive hotel, several employees made statements early. There are no statements coming from employees now. I also am familar with the way hotel management thinks. They do not want Kobe to come after them, be reasonable.

I never read a statement directly attributed to even one unnamed hotel employee or guest. Maybe you can provide one for us?

207 posted on 07/25/2003 12:29:15 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Thanks for pointing that out. It seems to be overlooked.
208 posted on 07/25/2003 12:45:32 PM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: Smogger
One of the first news stories.

Locals stand by alleged assault victim (Kobe Bryant case)

A few short weeks later, the 19-year-old was reportedly asked to deliver room service to Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant in his hotel room. It's not part of her job, but she reportedly did it anyway. When she came down from the room she was in hysterics.

This thread eluded to it to but was pulled.

Kobe Bryant charged with Sex Crime in Colorado

There have been several other news stories about the room service and her insistance to do it. So, that means that plenty of hotel employee were involved.
209 posted on 07/25/2003 1:11:37 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: kevao
Here are two never-before-seen pictures of Kobe Bryant's accuser with Kobe Bryant, together, in the hotel, on the night in question:


210 posted on 07/25/2003 1:15:30 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Oh, I forgot to mention the name of Kobe Bryant's accuser. The previous reports are wrong. Her name)
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To: BushCountry
the 19-year-old was reportedly asked to deliver room service to Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant in his hotel room. It's not part of her job, but she reportedly did it anyway.

I wonder if she would have been so accomodating if lil' ol' me had called down for room service?

211 posted on 07/25/2003 1:18:46 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Protagoras
>>So if I accuse you of a heinous crime, it would be improper to find out if I am a person who has made these kind of accusations in the past? No, it would not be improper to do that - for use in court - not to leak to the nearest reporter. The media, either on its own, or, in colusion with the defense, has taken a page from the Clinton playbook: remember the Nut & Slut treatment of any woman in Clinton's past?
212 posted on 07/25/2003 2:21:53 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tag line produced using 100% post-consumer recycled ethernet packets,)
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To: Smogger
You believe everything a newspaper tells you? Also, you can't eat first amendment rights. Hotel employees must make a living. They could get fired if they talked.
213 posted on 07/25/2003 5:25:03 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Charles Henrickson
I'm having trouble seeing your pictures, but there is a couple at the Cordillera Lodge and Spa website...(go to spa then wellness programs) that kinda look like them on the exercise machines...
214 posted on 07/25/2003 5:29:57 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Smogger
Remenber when they said that hotel security was called because of a loud ruckus. Here is another post that supports the claim.

An alleged witness to the Kobe Bryant alleged rape of a 19-year-old Eagle woman wrote Speakout! that Kobe Bryant was heard calling the alleged victim a “white bitch.” A person identifying themselves with a female name (Speakout! is withholding the name) wrote Wednesday, July 23rd, “I was upstairs of Kobe and I heard him shout, among other things over 23 minutes, ‘...white Bitch...’
215 posted on 07/25/2003 5:57:17 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: BushCountry
Why don't you post thw whole article?

By Michael Cacioppo, Pres. SpeakoutVail, Inc. - LOS ANGELES (allegedly) – An alleged witness to the Kobe Bryant alleged rape of a 19-year-old Eagle woman wrote Speakout! that Kobe Bryant was heard calling the alleged victim a “white bitch.”

A person identifying themselves with a female name (Speakout! is withholding the name) wrote Wednesday, July 23rd, “I was upstairs of Kobe and I heard him shout, among other things over 23 minutes, ‘...white Bitch...’ Does that constitute a ‘hate crime?’ Can he be put away for 14 years in (the) Federal Penitentiary?”

Speakout! responded to the email by asking for the writer’s phone number, allegedly in Los Angeles, but was emailed back, “(Name withheld) won't let me tell. I was born in (country withheld) and grew up in US. I have faced racism all my life. When we heard Kobe saying ‘...White Bitch...’ I knew something was going on.”

(Name withheld) won't let me talk about it because our careers (careers withheld) are in danger. I just couldn't let this go. It hurt me so much.”

Speakout! then contacted Gerry Engle, a partner at Cordillera, the hotel that Bryant stayed at on June 30th, the night of the alleged sexual assault. Engle was asked if Speakout! could view a list of names of guests staying at the resort on June 30th, in order to verify if the emailer was actually staying at the hotel that day. “We can never verify a guest name in the hotel because that and service are the number one rule in hospitality,” Engle stated. Speakout! responded that his answer was understandable.

A minute after Speakout! received the email declining to give Speakout! a phone number, Speakout! received another email from the alleged witness which said, “It's definitely a Federal case.”

Also, at 3am this morning (July 25th), another email was received by Speakout! saying, “I cannot tell you any more, (name withheld) my boyfriend and I are fighting about this. He thinks it will destroy our careers.”

Your kidding right? Did you send an e-mail to SpeakOut? The "alleged" witness?

Yeah? Well my room was right BELOW Kobe's room, and I heard the alleged victim shout "I'm gonna get you Kobe! I'm gonna put a rape charge on you! You'll be sorry!"

"He thinks it will destroy our careers."

LOL! Careers as what? Anonymous Internet kooks?

216 posted on 07/25/2003 6:14:41 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: BushCountry; phreebass; onyx; honeygrl; sinkspur
An alleged witness to the Kobe Bryant alleged rape of a 19-year-old Eagle woman wrote Speakout! that Kobe Bryant was heard calling the alleged victim a “white bitch.” A person identifying themselves with a female name (Speakout! is withholding the name) wrote Wednesday, July 23rd, “I was upstairs of Kobe and I heard him shout, among other things over 23 minutes, ‘...white Bitch...’

Looks like Kobe's attackers will be the first to play the "race" card.

217 posted on 07/25/2003 6:22:42 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Geezus gawd. The race card is now in play!

She was "upstairs of Kobe and she heard "Kobe Bryant" shout, among other things over "twenty-three" minutes, '...white bitch...'"

Right. She knows Kobe by his voice! She can identify Kobe by his voice! What utter crapola.

And over the course of "twenty-three minutes" --- not twenty minutes or approximately twenty minutes, but precisely "twenty-three" minutes! Yeah, sure.

I'd laugh but I'd vomit.
218 posted on 07/25/2003 7:08:33 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
The media, either on its own, or, in colusion with the defense,

The media can't be stopped, nor should they in a free society. As much as we hate what they do in these cases, the rights of all citizens, including the media, to discover things about events is fundamental to our freedom.

The second idea, colusion, in this case is so remote it isnt worth concidering.

219 posted on 07/25/2003 7:08:45 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: BushCountry
Remenber when they said that hotel security was called because of a loud ruckus.

Nope. Link please?

220 posted on 07/25/2003 7:13:14 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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