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Saddam's Two Sons Killed in U.S. Raid (Saddam's spawn sent to hell!)
AP ^ | July 22, 2003 | Sarmad Jalal

Posted on 07/22/2003 2:05:08 PM PDT by CanadianLibertarian

MOSUL, Iraq (AP) - Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai were killed in a six-hour firefight Tuesday when U.S. forces, acting on a tip from an Iraqi informant, surrounded and then stormed a palatial villa in this northern Iraqi town, a senior American general said.

Four coalition soldiers were wounded and two other Iraqis were killed in the raid, but Saddam was not among them. The house belonged to one of Saddam's cousins, a key tribal leader in the region.

"We are certain that Odai and Qusai were killed today," said Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez at a news conference in Baghdad. "The bodies were in such a condition where you could identify them."

The deaths of the sons could have a major impact on the Iraqi resistance, which has been mounting about a dozen attacks a day against U.S. occupation troops. The guerrillas are thought to be former military officers and Baath Party leaders loyal to Saddam and his family - especially the sons, who played primary roles in the military and feared security services.

Both Odai and Qusai ranked second only to their father in the deposed regime, officials have said. They were Nos. 2 and 3 on the U.S. list of 55 top former Iraqi officials wanted by Washington. The United States had offered a $25 million reward for information leading to Saddam's capture and $15 million each for his sons.

In Washington, L. Paul Bremer, Iraq's top civilian administrator, said he did not want to comment on how the deaths of Saddam's sons would affect security in Iraq.

However, Bremer said: "It certainly is good news for the Iraqi people."

"This will contribute significantly to reducing attacks on coalition soldiers," said Ahmad Chalabi, a delegate from the Coalition Provisional Authority, speaking at the United Nations.

Asked whether the killing of the sons would reduce the incessant attacks on American forces, Sanchez said he thought the security situation now would improve.

(AP) Lt. Gen. Ricardor Sanchez, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, speaks during a news conference in... Full Image

"I believe very firmly this will have an effect. This will prove to the Iraqi people that these two members of the Iraqi regime will never come to power again," Sanchez said.

Hours after the raid in Mosul, gunfire erupted throughout Baghdad, making travel very dangerous. The shooting was believed to be celebratory as news of the killing of the sons spread through the capital.

"It's probably very appropriate that they would be celebrating about now," Sanchez said.

Fighting broke out after soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division surrounded the stone, columned villa.

When troops approached the building, gunmen inside opened fire with small arms. The "suspects barricaded themselves in the house" and "resisted fiercely," Sanchez said.

(AP) Lt. Gen. Ricardor Sanchez, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, speaks during a news conference in... Full Image

"They died in a fierce gunbattle," Sanchez added.

He told reporters that soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division were working on a tip from an Iraqi informant that the sons were present in the house.

Asked if the $15 million rewards would be paid, Sanchez said: "I would expect that it probably will happen."

According to witnesses in Mosul, a small force of American soldiers went to the house about 9 a.m. and asked permission to search it. The occupants refused, and the patrol withdrew until about 10 a.m., when 100 more soldiers arrived in 25 vehicles.

The Americans opened fire but received fierce return fire from inside the home, the witnesses said. Kiowa helicopters arrived and fired rockets into the villa. The interior of the house was destroyed and two adjacent homes were badly damaged.

(AP) Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, left, speaks with his son Qusai, right, in Baghdad, Iraq, in... Full Image

Once the fighting died down, Iraqi police arrived to help the Americans search the building.

"When we saw the people in the house shooting back, we knew Odai and Qusai were there," said the 31-year-old Jamal.

Afterward, about 1,000 people gathered, some expressing delight, others cursing the Americans.

The soldiers removed four bodies and did not let photographers near enough to take pictures.

The building, in the al-Falah neighborhood, was left charred and smoldering, its high facade riddled with gaping holes from bullets and heavy weaponry. Kiowa helicopters roamed the sky.

(AP) Tracer fire from light machine guns is seen over the cityscape of Baghdad after news reports of the... Full Image

Some Mosul civilians appeared to have been caught in the crossfire. It was not known how many people were injured, but several were taken to a hospital.

Officials gave conflicting reports on whether anyone was captured during the assault. The officials said they had no initial information that would suggest Saddam was present during the raid.

Experts conducted DNA tests after the bodies were flown from Mosul to another location, officials said.

Throughout the day, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld briefed President Bush personally about the assault.

Qusai was probably intended as Saddam's successor, according to U.S. intelligence officials. He ran much of Iraq's security apparatus, controlling several militias, internal security services and the military forces of the once-vaunted Republican Guard.

(AP) Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, seated right, chairs a meeting with high-ranking Iraqi... Full Image

He was described as quiet and level, particularly compared to Odai, Saddam's eldest son, who had a reputation for brutality and flamboyance. Odai controlled Saddam's Fedayeen, the paramilitary force that fought U.S. troops during the war; many of its survivors are thought to be part of the ongoing guerrilla campaign in Iraq.

Odai also controlled information and propaganda in Saddam's Iraq, and was chairman of the country's Olympic committee.

Saddam has a third, younger son, according to some reports, and three daughters. All kept a low profile in his regime.

Mosul, a town 240 miles northwest of Baghdad that housed Iraqi army bases, is outside the so-called "Sunni Triangle" in central Iraq - home to much of the remaining support for Saddam, a Sunni Muslim who used his Baathist Party to oppress the country's Shiite majority.

The triangle is also a center of anti-American resistance: In the latest attack, Tuesday, a U.S. soldier was killed and another wounded in an ambush along a dangerous road north of Baghdad. His death brought to 153 the number of U.S. troops killed in action since the March 20 start of war, six more than during the 1991 Gulf War.

(AP) Odai Hussein participates in a celebration held in Baghdad for an anniversary of the re-election of... Full Image

The U.S. Central Command said the attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and small arms in the assault staged along the road between Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, and Ramadi, 60 miles west of the capital. It gave no other details.

The U.S.-led coalition's military occupation of Iraq has been met by constant armed Iraqi resistance, resulting in almost daily deaths of American troops. Many recent assaults have been staged with remote-controlled roadside explosions.

Before the announcement, White House officials were cautious in their assessments of whether the raid was successful.

Asked about reports of that Saddam's sons had been killed, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said he was "not in a position to confirm anything."

Given a series of failed strikes against Iraqi leaders since the war began March 20, U.S. officials clearly did not want to make any public claims that later prove untrue.

On April 7, Rumsfeld announced the death of Ali Hassan al-Majid, Saddam's first cousin and one of his bloodiest henchman, and showed reporters video of laser-guided bombs obliterating a house in Basra, Iraq's second city, where a tipster had told coalition forces he was staying.

But last month, U.S. military officials said that interrogations of Iraqi prisoners indicated al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali" for his use of mustard gas and other poisonous gases to kill thousands of northern Kurds during a 1988 rebellion, might be alive.

Twice during the war, information on Saddam's whereabouts was deemed solid enough that an airstrike was sent to kill him. But despite optimistic statements in the hours after each raid, U.S. officials now believe he is alive.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; odai; qusay; reaping; saddam; sowing; uday
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To: rudypoot
where exactly is the "Sunni Triangle" defined?

I just checked Webster's. No luck there.

21 posted on 07/22/2003 2:37:37 PM PDT by kevao
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To: saluki_in_ohio
Uday and Qusay are ucked-fay. Hoo-ray!
22 posted on 07/22/2003 2:38:48 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's new column.)
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To: leadpenny
We want the PaPa.
23 posted on 07/22/2003 2:39:49 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: rudypoot
the "sunni triangle" is what you call it when a young lady lays out at the beach without her bikini bottoms....LOL
24 posted on 07/22/2003 2:41:37 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: CanadianLibertarian
Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai were killed in a six-hour firefight Tuesday when U.S. forces, acting on a tip from an Iraqi informant ... $15 million each for his sons

Someone's going to get a big check.

25 posted on 07/22/2003 2:42:10 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Bahbah
Good point/question. My guess is that more "details" will come out in the days ahead. Right now those 200, or so, special ops soldiers must be celebrating as if they had just won the Super Bowl.
26 posted on 07/22/2003 2:44:17 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mikegi; hchutch
That informant has some tough decisions.

A 7-series Beemer, or an E-Series Mercedes?

Or should he get both? :o)
27 posted on 07/22/2003 2:45:19 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: CanadianLibertarian
The 4 hour gunbattle is now 6 hours. By tomorrow it will be 24 hours with hundreds killed. By next year it will be a month with thousands killed. Who knows, this might become a morality play and eventually be translated and pasted in somewhere in a sanskrit epic.
28 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Poohbah
A 7-series Beemer, or an E-Series Mercedes? Or should he get both? :o)

With $30 million, he won't have to decide - get both. Might as well throw in another auto "for fun":


29 posted on 07/22/2003 2:51:08 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Poohbah
LOL!
30 posted on 07/22/2003 2:51:42 PM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: Tall_Texan
As another freeper once pointed out,

Uday is DU in pig latin.
31 posted on 07/22/2003 3:15:29 PM PDT by I still care
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To: Capt.YankeeMike; kevao
Ahh geesh, I had to ask. hehhehehe
32 posted on 07/22/2003 3:16:02 PM PDT by rudypoot (99% of the lawyers make the rest look bad.)
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To: CanadianLibertarian
He [Qusai ] was described as quiet and level, particularly compared to Odai, Saddam's eldest son, who had a reputation for brutality and flamboyance.

Michael and Sonny are dead. Just lookin' for Don Vito...

Saddam has a third, younger son, according to some reports, and three daughters. All kept a low profile in his regime.

I guess that Fredo survives this time - probably because Saddam's Fredo wasn't stupid enough to cooperate with the Bush Family to knock off Qusai.

33 posted on 07/22/2003 3:56:59 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Bahbah
However, does it sound strange the battle was so fierce and went on for such a long time when we had 200 of the good guys armed to the teeth, and they had only 4 people in the house who were shooting back with small arms?

Yeah, that's one of the talking points over at DU.

34 posted on 07/22/2003 4:03:44 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
"that's one of the talking points over at DU."

Oh, why am I not surprised. Anyway, the info is already changing. Now they say there were at least 7 people in the house. And I also wonder if they are calling anything short of RPG's "small arms." If it took our guys 3-4 hours just to make sure none of them were killed, that certainly works for me.

35 posted on 07/22/2003 4:39:29 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Prodigal Son
Colonel David Hunt has interesting information on O'Reilly. Says they found upwards of $50 million in the house and, EVEN BETTER, lists of the Baathist leaders. Also says, going in to a fight like this, better to kill those who need killing than to get our guys killed.
36 posted on 07/22/2003 5:11:05 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Xthe17th
I don't get it. I thought we were sure that we got them last time. Did they take their velvet porn paintings and videos with them this time?

This time, we've got their bodies! Damaged, but not so badly that they couldn't be IDed by visual means alone.

37 posted on 07/22/2003 8:56:56 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
yep. see my post #10.
38 posted on 07/23/2003 6:33:29 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repeal the 17th amendment!)
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