DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

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[ConservativeMan55]

DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

[budwiesest]

open season on the left. Im sick of this crap

Now, now. Hold the horses. As many have suggested, the use of the president in such a moving portrayal of an incident that happened long ago is probably going 'over the top' 'cause even suggesting that pointing a gun at the president is in anyway, a 'harmless' act, is wrong, way wrong.

That some on the Left might take delight in it only betrays their failure to understand what the 'toonist was expressing and exposes them for the shallow minds they possess. What remains to be seen is: if such a cartoon were to insight some idiot (as well as dulling common senses) to act in such a manner. On the dulling of senses I'd have to vote against images such as this having wide distribution. A bumpersticker perhaps, but not too tasty in a major newspaper.

[ConservativeMan55]

You understand how many people would misinterpret it, but you don't understand why the SS would be concerned????

HELLO!!

[Libloather]

...you'll fall off the left side of the universe...

You got a down side?

[vaudine]

The question is when does supposed humor go beyond the pale of the Free Press? I really don't know; but this is very offensive and somewhat threatening. Does "Free Press" cover an oblique threat to the President, a judge, politician, etc.? Inquiring minds want to know.

vaudine

[Domestic Church]

You miss my point entirely. It is visually anti- President Bush to the nth degree...you can't get more anti-Bush. In that it is evil. It was couched as political commentary, Bush being done in by the professional political war assassin and there are even more political layers when you look into the individuals of the actual photo and the effect of the original photo on the nation back then.

[CoolGuyVic]

Political cartoons are supposed to provoke thought and discussion.

On those grounds alone, Mr. Ramirez has succeeded.

BTW, don't you hate people who useGIANT fonts to compensate for their lack of cogent arguments?

[Bogey78O]

What's the meaning behind the photo?

I've asked oncebut no one has told me.

[Miss Marple]

Here's a test. Print out a copy of the cartoon. Take it to your local Wal-Mart and ask people what they think it means.

You are not allowed to show them the photo from Saigon. You are not allowed to explain it.

I will bet you $100 that most people will not ponder it in its intellectual complexity. I think the reactions will be

1. Horrible. He wants the President to be executed over Iraq.

2. Cool! He wants the President to be executed over Iraq.

If a cartoon is too complicated for most people to understand on first glance, it fails as a cartoon. This is a failure.

[ChadGore]

Re: Many people are not old enough to know what this cartoon suggests.

I see the gun, I see our presidents head. That's against the law.

[metesky]

"...An especially disturbing picture was shown for days on television: General Nguyen Ngoc Loan blowing the brains out of a captured Vietcong infiltrator. That the prisoner had been part of infiltration units which just earlier had gunned down many of Loan's security forces, including one officer at home with his wife and children, or that enemy agents out of uniform and in civilian dress were not accorded the same treatment as captured soldiers, was lost in the journalistic frenzy. Eddie Adams, the Associated Press photographer who snapped the picture for Life Magazine,won the Pulitzer Prize for photography."
- Victor Davis Hanson, Carnage and Culture pp.392-393

[b4its2late]

Oh. Okay. Still I ain't giving them the priviledge.... LOL!

[TheOtherOne]

Funny, that you need to use the cropped image to make your point. Of course, it is just a gun and the President's head and looks like mere assasination on your image - The cartoon, in contrast, shows a very different picture.

[arasina]

Well, I don't think that having a bunch of Bevis and Buttheads chortling at the assasination of the President is exactly wht the cartoonist was aiming for. If it was, he deserves a visit from the Secret Service.

Gee, I wish I could express the things I think as well as you do. Perfect!

P.S. I noticed you separated the Viet from the Nam, which is the way I remember it for some reason. Was it ever Viet Nam or has it always been Vietnam? Am I losing my mind?

[dogbyte12]

Big post... but let me show a few examples of Ramirez' work to show where this guy is coming from.

[Helms]

It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

REALLY DO TRY TO FORGIVE, AFTER ALL ITS NOT LIKE WE ARE AT WAR W/ ALOT OF MEDIA AND WHAT W/ THE BBC AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF

[dogbyte12]

See my post 274 to see where this guy is coming from philosophically.

[fightu4it]

"Yes, he did kill him. The picture that is so famous was taken a second before the bulet slammed into the head of the Viet Cong soldier. As I recall, the picture was not a compliment to the marksmanship, or zeal, of the shooter."

The picture was taken after a prolonged battle in Siagon between the Viet Namese Police and Viet Cong forces. The man doing the shooting was Chief of Police Loan. It was Tet of 1968 and Loan had just lost some men and I think some family in the battle. There was fighting going on all over the city with our Army MP batallion suffering many dead and wounded. Loan gained some much needed respect for his police who had previously been refered to by US forces in Siagon as the "white mice".

[Domestic Church]

I disagree, I think there indeed is a threat to the President both in the nature of the visual effect ( this is accepted from a national paper???!!!! What can top this? What will push the limit next?) and the potential it could have on the public, especially the cracked nuts roasting under the California sun.

[Helms]

It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

REALLY DO TRY TO FORGIVE, AFTER ALL ITS NOT LIKE WE ARE AT WAR W/ ALOT OF MEDIA AND WHAT W/ THE BBC AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF

[ChadGore]

This is a failure. because it has 2 elements that are against the law.

1) A Gun
2) Pointed at the leader of the executive branch of my government.