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Daschle Leads Thune 46%-40% in New Poll
Rapid City Journal ^ | 07/19/03 | Denise Ross

Posted on 07/19/2003 4:50:45 PM PDT by Pubbie

A new Republican poll shows incumbent Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., would win an election against potential Republican challenger, former Congressman John Thune.

The poll, conducted July 9 and 10 by Washington-based GOP pollster Robert Moran, shows Daschle would get 46 percent of the vote and Thune would get 40 percent of the vote, if the election were held now. Moran's poll shows 10 percent are undecided, with 1 percent leaning toward Thune and 2 percent leaning towards Daschle. The poll has a 4.9 percent margin of error.

Despite Daschle's lead, both sides claim the poll of registered voters is a sign their candidate would be victorious in 2004 and encouraged news coverage of the numbers. Moran conducted the poll on his own and wasn't hired or paid by anyone, he said.

Popular three-term House member Thune lost a 2002 challenge to Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D., by 524 votes. He is considered the leading contender against Daschle and has said he is considering the race but doesn't have a timeline to decide if he will run.

GOP operatives and a Thune staffer seized on the figures showing Daschle's support has dipped below 50 percent, something they say has spelled trouble for incumbents.

"Anytime you have an incumbent stuck in the mid-40s, which is where Daschle's been in two successive polls ... I think he knows he's in trouble. That's why he's running ads now," National Republican Senatorial Committee spokesman Dan Allen said. "They're in a state with Republican enrollment and the president at the top of the ticket. Daschle has reasons to be very concerned. The numbers show this is a very competitive race."

Allen refers to pro-ethanol television ads that Daschle's campaign is running on Sioux Falls television stations.

Pollster Moran said former senators Alfonse D'Amato of New York, Jean Carnahan of Missouri and William Roth of Delaware each fell below the 50 percent mark and lost the race.

Thune spokesman Ryan Nelson called the poll numbers "encouraging."

"You've got an unannounced individual, a private citizen, who's within a little above the margin of error on a sitting minority leader."

Daschle's campaign manager Steve Hildebrand said his boss has gained ground and Thune has lost ground since a poll taken about four months ago by another GOP pollster showed Thune edging Daschle out, 46-44.

"Why would they put out a poll that shows Daschle has gained 8 (points) since the last poll?" Hildebrand said. "That eight-point swing in Tom Daschle's favor, to me, is the single most significant aspect to their poll."

Hildebrand said Daschle's lead is even more impressive considering that Republicans claim 10 percent more of South Dakota's registered voters than do Democrats.

Moran, on the other hand, believes that the most significant aspect of the poll is the combination of Daschle's sub-50-percent number and the fact that President Bush won South Dakota by 60 percent in 2000.

If Bush maintains that margin in 2004, Moran believes the president's lead would leave Daschle trying to scrape together enough crossover votes to eke out a victory. His experience in races during the Clinton years shows him that the bigger the president's margin of victory in a district, the more elusive victory becomes for candidates from the opposing party. When Clinton took a district by 54 percent or more, victory for a Republican congressional candidate was rare, he said.

"The higher Bush's vote total gets, the harder and harder it is. The question becomes what percent of the Bush vote does Daschle need to win?" Moran said. "How do you convince people to vote for both Superman and Lex Luthor?"

Hildebrand refused to discuss how a 60 percent or better victory for Bush would affect Daschle's showing and called a repeat performance by the president "a huge assumption, given the current climate." But, he notes that the poll shows Bush behind Daschle at 43 percent in South Dakota, with 29 percent choosing an unnamed Democrat challenger, 21 percent undecided and 3 percent each leaning toward Bush or a Democrat.

Also, Daschle has won his last two elections with 62 percent and 65 percent of the vote.

"I'm not going to suggest that George Bush is in trouble here, but Tom Daschle's numbers are better than George W. Bush's. Bush has farther to climb to get to 60 percent than Daschle does," Hildebrand said. "We are not threatened by sharing the ballot with George Bush. For a number of elections, Tom Daschle's been on the ballot at the same time a (Republican) president has been on ballot, and Tom Daschle has never lost an election."


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 2004; dachle; senate; southdakota; thune; tomdaschle
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1 posted on 07/19/2003 4:50:45 PM PDT by Pubbie
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To: Pubbie
I may PUKE!
2 posted on 07/19/2003 4:51:30 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: JohnnyZ; Theodore R.; Nathaniel Fischer; AuH2ORepublican; LdSentinal; Kuksool; Coop; ...
"and a Thune staffer seized on the figures showing Daschle's support has dipped below 50 percent, something they say has spelled trouble for incumbents."

Hmmm... I wonder why a Thune Staffer would be crowing about this poll IF Thune weren't going to run?...
3 posted on 07/19/2003 4:51:32 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: lawdude
No this is good, If Daschle is below 48%, that is a vey bad sign for the incumbent.

Thune will beat Daschle if only because Daschle can't pretend to be a "Conservative" Democrat like Tim Johnson could.
4 posted on 07/19/2003 4:52:59 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Pubbie
A new Republican poll shows incumbent Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., would win an election against potential Republican challenger, former Congressman John Thune.... The poll has a 4.9 percent margin of error.

Um, if Tommy Boy leads 46%-40%, and there is a 4.9% margin of error, then how can they surmise the pool shows Daschle would win? The difference is statistically insignificant, and the fact that a year and a half from the election, an incumbent Senate Minority Leader only leads in a poll by 6% is not favorable to Daschle.

5 posted on 07/19/2003 4:53:20 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Pubbie
looks like tommy better start campaigning hard in the indian burial grounds
6 posted on 07/19/2003 4:55:45 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Thane_Banquo
Plus its registered voters (not likely voters)
which skew toward rats.
7 posted on 07/19/2003 5:01:06 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Pubbie
That's does not amount to a lead at all for an incumbent!

Check around...I think you'll find that an incumbent needs much better numbers than that or he's in for a tough run.

8 posted on 07/19/2003 5:05:44 PM PDT by capt. norm (For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.)
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To: Coop; GraniteStateConservative
FYI......
9 posted on 07/19/2003 5:09:57 PM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: Pubbie
This is pure and simple. Lots of Republicans in SD must like Tom Daschle. But remember, one must blame the Libertarians after Republicans fail again.
10 posted on 07/19/2003 5:10:17 PM PDT by Satadru
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To: Pubbie
Ugh. Heap big Injun turnout of 200% could spell trouble.

This time, can we get the GOP anti-fraud squad geared up? Thune won that last election; he needs to make sure the next one isn't stolen also.

11 posted on 07/19/2003 5:12:23 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Shut up," he explained.)
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To: Pubbie
Dasshole better see the writing on the wall....he's below 50% now and by election day he'll be toast
12 posted on 07/19/2003 5:16:02 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: Pubbie
Unless the Repubs. can get a little backbone about Dem. voter fraud, neither this nor any other poll is worth mentioning. Thune actually won last time minus the fraud on the Indian Reservation, but he isn't in Washington, is he?

vaudine
13 posted on 07/19/2003 5:21:02 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Satadru
Since President Bush has come out solidly against extending the Assault Weapons Ban and has seen to it that all the nation's pilots are now armed, I can't imagine the Libertarians will do well enough in SD to make the difference. (sarcasm)
14 posted on 07/19/2003 6:00:20 PM PDT by caltrop
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To: Satadru
One thing they won't do wrong again is bring in "Johnson" Republicans like they did last year. They'd go to GOP districts and drag everyone to the polls rather than survey those areas and bring in only those who said they'd support Thune.
15 posted on 07/19/2003 6:04:58 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Pubbie
How could anyone vote for Tom Daschle?? Even for Democrats that seems like a stretch.
16 posted on 07/19/2003 6:27:52 PM PDT by fiftymegaton
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To: Pubbie
Pubbies win!

Take no prisoners!

FREgards......

17 posted on 07/19/2003 6:55:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
"looks like tommy better start campaigning hard in the indian burial grounds"

I believe he's already started.

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18 posted on 07/19/2003 7:37:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: southernnorthcarolina
"can we get the GOP anti-fraud squad geared up?"

In South Dakota it's going to be tough. They do not require any form of ID to vote.

19 posted on 07/19/2003 7:38:48 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: SoDak
PING to our man on the scene...
20 posted on 07/19/2003 7:46:32 PM PDT by tubebender (FReepin Awesome...)
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