Duking it out over John Wayne

New York Daily News ^ | 7/19/03 | Kay Gardella

[kattracks]

Maureen O'Hara summed up John Wayne best.

Explaining to Congress why the actor merited the nation's Medal of Honor, his frequent co-star said: "John Wayne is the United States of America."

Not everybody will agree with O'Hara's summation of the actor's long career in films. That's pointed out in tomorrow night's PBS special, "John Wayne - The Unquiet American," airing on WNET/Ch. 13 at 10 o'clock.

In archival interviews - Wayne died June 11, 1979 - the actor emerges as a man determined to shape his life and image to reflect his conservative values and belief in the United States.

He scoffs at politicians "who kowtow to minorities for the vote."

Filmmaker Oliver Stone says of Wayne: "There was no sexuality, but there was honesty. You knew what you were getting."

So did the public, since Wayne remains the most popular American movie actor in history.

The one nick in his armor was putting career above the country he loved during World War II. He shirked a call to arms when other actors such as Clark Gable, Robert Taylor, Henry Fonda and Tyrone Power entered the service.

Wayne's life is traced from childhood (he was born Marion Morrison) to his death, using home movies, archival footage, photographs and insights from family and friends.

"What he was creating was an image, not only of manhood or of a particular actor, but [of what] many came to think of America," says Garry Wills, author of "John Wayne's America."

Helping to shape that image was director John Ford, with whom Wayne had a long and fruitful collaboration on such classics as "Stagecoach," "The Searchers" and "The Quiet Man."

They both were drinkers, and shared the same values and love for this country. To the macho actor, Ford was a mentor and father figure who helped shape his career.

Produced by Martin Davidson and directed by James Kent, "John Wayne - The Unquiet American" is a collage of pieces of this beloved star.

It doesn't pull punches, nor does it set out to destroy the heroic image.

Originally published on July 19, 2003

[pbear8]

In the Jimmy Carter "Presidential Library"--

John Wayne's application for a commission with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), 1943 Modern Military Records RG 226, E92, Box 32, Folder 22087

[jhw61]

I'm not a guy partna.

[squidly]

My humblest apologies madam.

[Roscoe]

"When war broke Out, Duke tried to enlist but was rejected because of an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a married father of four." --Ronald Reagan, Reader's Digest, Oct. 1979

[jhw61]

No problem. Sounds like you might actually be coming around to becoming a fan of the Dukes. I was only 18 yrs. old, just graduated from high school when the Duke died. He has forever remained an irreplaceable icon IMO. I just loved him in case you havn't caught on so maybe I've gotten a little carried away with my comments. Please watch the special and get back to us ever devoted Duke fans, will ya?

[squidly]

No problem. Sounds like you might actually be coming around to becoming a fan of the Dukes.

I doubt I will ever be a fan of his acting or his movies. However, this thread has illuminated some other information about him that I did not know. Previously, I had thought of him as someone who stormed the beaches of southern California in defense of our republic. His shoulder injury making him unfit for service didn't carry a lot of weight with me since I lied to the Navy about a past injury of mine so that I could serve.

[visitor]

ignore him, squidly is just a "sock puppet" ...rto

[autoresponder]

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download.

Please check out Tripod's Help sy
stem for more information about Remote Loading and our Remot
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[Rainbow Rising]

My husband and I often quote the squire when we're disgusted with someone: Put his name on The List and draw a line through it.

My mother and I love that movie! And we quote that line all the time too. No matter how low I'm feeling, watching that movie will always pick me right up.

[autoresponder]

You are probably right.

Check "Dixie Gun Works" catalogs

Full of good info on old FAs

You will also see that Colt changed the bore of standard .38 barrels way back when.

The BP C&B .36 was really a .375

The BP C&B .44 was really .451-.454

Colt SA .38-40s are popular with some SASS shooters, but I like to stick to easy to git ammo!

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Early small Magnum cartridge.

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I should quit talking about Colts, I may be running up their values.

My private collection is getting to be too valuable to own.

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Bullets run in the .427-.429 range.

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Lousy accuracy resulted for a beancounter's compromise decision.

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Ruger proved 'em wrong.

Colt came back with more 2nd Gens

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Patent stamps on LS Frame: 1871 & 1872

[autoresponder]

FYI

Please "SAVE" the PETA quote in my tagline!

PETA's Bruce Friedrich calls for and praises blowing up and smashing US private businesses in this .wav audio file from ConsumerFreedom.Com

[Centurion2000]

bump

[squidly]

ignore him, squidly is just a "sock puppet" ...rto

sock puppet?

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Sorry. It looks like they don't allow deep linking there. I checked it after and it did work but it was probably reading stored cookie. Here's the main page that should work;

http://happybaker.tripod.com/wayne.htm

I was pointing to the 2nd John Wayne Quote but the first one is also worth a listen.

[autoresponder]

I transloaded both .wav files:

http://www.angelfire.com/clone/quixdraw4440/WAYNE_SHOOT.wav


http://www.angelfire.com/clone/quixdraw4440/WAYNE_MARINES.wav

Duke lives!

My just found .wav file of PETA's Bruce Friedrich at the 2001 "Animal Rights" convention praising and promoting the blowing up and smashing of American private businesses:

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/peta_quote.wav

Same .wav in a "Shorty" .wav file:

http://tinyurl.com/hjhd

[autoresponder]

JOHN WAYNE

THE STORY OF "TAPS"

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[Rebelbase]

"He was Mom "

Yikes!

[Rebelbase]

"We've got too much at stake to give government a monopoly in the fight against cancer."

Ironic given the fact that it was atomic fallout that likely caused Wayne's cancer.

[ThomasMore]

Thanks, Mustang, and I think you're right about the leftist media. I recently purchased the DVD version of "The Quiet Man" and was not surprised to see the commentary attached to the Duke's and Ward Bond's bio. They treated their memory as if they were lepers and Hollywood odd-balls.

[Shooter 2.5]

Turner Kirkland was a really gentleman. He helped me with a Trapdoor 50-70.