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Duking it out over John Wayne
New York Daily News ^ | 7/19/03 | Kay Gardella

Posted on 07/19/2003 1:45:34 AM PDT by kattracks

Maureen O'Hara summed up John Wayne best.

Explaining to Congress why the actor merited the nation's Medal of Honor, his frequent co-star said: "John Wayne is the United States of America."

Not everybody will agree with O'Hara's summation of the actor's long career in films. That's pointed out in tomorrow night's PBS special, "John Wayne - The Unquiet American," airing on WNET/Ch. 13 at 10 o'clock.

In archival interviews - Wayne died June 11, 1979 - the actor emerges as a man determined to shape his life and image to reflect his conservative values and belief in the United States.

He scoffs at politicians "who kowtow to minorities for the vote."

Filmmaker Oliver Stone says of Wayne: "There was no sexuality, but there was honesty. You knew what you were getting."

So did the public, since Wayne remains the most popular American movie actor in history.

The one nick in his armor was putting career above the country he loved during World War II. He shirked a call to arms when other actors such as Clark Gable, Robert Taylor, Henry Fonda and Tyrone Power entered the service.

Wayne's life is traced from childhood (he was born Marion Morrison) to his death, using home movies, archival footage, photographs and insights from family and friends.

"What he was creating was an image, not only of manhood or of a particular actor, but [of what] many came to think of America," says Garry Wills, author of "John Wayne's America."

Helping to shape that image was director John Ford, with whom Wayne had a long and fruitful collaboration on such classics as "Stagecoach," "The Searchers" and "The Quiet Man."

They both were drinkers, and shared the same values and love for this country. To the macho actor, Ford was a mentor and father figure who helped shape his career.

Produced by Martin Davidson and directed by James Kent, "John Wayne - The Unquiet American" is a collage of pieces of this beloved star.

It doesn't pull punches, nor does it set out to destroy the heroic image.

Originally published on July 19, 2003



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I just had to get in on this one. My favorite actor. I would say I picked up many of my values from him and others of his kind and I do honor and admire him.

John Bernard Books (The Shootist):
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them."
81 posted on 07/19/2003 11:47:03 AM PDT by Owatamla
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To: Maigrey
Filmmaker Oliver Stone says of Wayne: "There was no sexuality...

I guess Stone never saw "The Quiet Man"...
either that, or he subscribes to a rather queer definition of "sexuality".

82 posted on 07/19/2003 11:55:13 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: kattracks
>>Wayne's life is traced from childhood (he was born Marion Morrison)

And that would be born in Wintersett, Iowa - Madison County, more recently famous for that movie about the covered bridges...

83 posted on 07/19/2003 12:04:10 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tag line produced using 100% post-consumer recycled ethernet packets,)
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To: Willie Green
guess Stone never saw "The Quiet Man"... either that, or he subscribes to a rather queer definition of "sexuality".

Right you are, Willie......There'll be no doors between us, Mary Kate...

84 posted on 07/19/2003 12:08:40 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("All them Parmelees is teched. Harold's the worst.".......Lucky Ned Pepper)
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To: squidly
John Wayne was a poser. Y'all flame away now.

Ah, a "pigeon poster". You fly in, drop some crap, and fly away.

If you want to be flamed, you'll need more than that. Post a few paragraphs expressing why you think that is true and you will get the real flames. Otherwise, you are not worth the time.

85 posted on 07/19/2003 12:09:30 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: mommadooo3
Thank you for that post.

As always, the Left shrinks in the face of facts. If Americans cared about facts, there would NOT BE a Left.

Instead they fantasize and, failing that, outright lie, to push their agenda.

God Bless John Wayne (of course, He already did) and God Bless America.

86 posted on 07/19/2003 12:10:22 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: mystery-ak; All
Here is what I have to say to PBS ..

--->Click on picture

AND

America Why I Love Her

87 posted on 07/19/2003 12:33:02 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: FreedomCalls
If you want to be flamed, you'll need more than that. Post a few paragraphs expressing why you think that is true and you will get the real flames. Otherwise, you are not worth the time.

Hey man, I've got the upcoming PBS special to back me up. Can anybody tell me truthfully that he was anything besides a pretty boy actor who supported GOP causes? I didn't think so. Notice I didn't say he was a bad man, a buffoon, or a scumbag. Just a poser.

88 posted on 07/19/2003 12:54:21 PM PDT by squidly
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To: squidly
Can anybody tell me truthfully that he was anything besides a pretty boy actor who supported GOP causes?

Activist supporting the troops in Vietnam. He visited the troops there and put his career on the line in making "The Green Berets". Many reports of him confronting anti-war protestors. One such account had him wading through an anti-war mob to remove a North Vietnamese flag that they were flying. At the time, he was with Jimmy Stewart who's son had just been killed in Nam.

Just a poser.

That is false, very false.

89 posted on 07/19/2003 1:12:19 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Thanks for that info. I just never really cared for his acting or his movies, and to me the elevation of someone due to their on-screen persona is just silly. But that is some interesting stuff.
90 posted on 07/19/2003 1:24:51 PM PDT by squidly
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To: squidly
"Hey man, I've got the upcoming PBS special to back me up. Can anybody tell me truthfully that he was anything besides a pretty boy actor who supported GOP causes? I didn't think so. Notice I didn't say he was a bad man, a buffoon, or a scumbag. Just a poser."...........

Pretty boy poser you say. We are not talking about Ben Afleck, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt for god's sake. We are talking about John Wayne dammitt. This man was gigantic with more testosterone in one pinky finger than you and the Hollywood prettyboy rugrats could hope to ever possess in your whole entire life. The man personified manhood. There has never been anyone since who remotely comes close, period! (IMHO that is). And what exactly do you mean you have this PBS special to back you up. Have you seen it yet?
91 posted on 07/19/2003 1:33:25 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: jhw61
Take it easy, partner. We're just arguing about an actor. If you want to elevate him to idol status, that's your business. He's just an actor in my book.
92 posted on 07/19/2003 1:39:17 PM PDT by squidly
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To: ExSoldier
"I'm looking at a tin star with a drunk pinned to it."

That line is from "El Dorado".

El Dorado, Rio Bravo and Rio Lobo all had a similar story line. El Dorado and Rio Bravo were almost the same movie. Throw in another sidekick and the Civil War and you've got Rio Lobo.

93 posted on 07/19/2003 2:08:54 PM PDT by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: mommadooo3
Thank you so much for the article!
94 posted on 07/19/2003 8:23:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: squidly
LOL... read the following. And THEN say the Duke was a 'poser'.

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed to join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war effort by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back to Bataan and They Were Expendable. (R.Reagan)

As one of the true innovators of the film industry, Duke tossed aside the model of the white-suited cowboy/good guy, creating instead a tougher, deeper-dimensioned western hero. He discovered Monument Valley, the film setting in the Arizona - Utah desert where a host of movie classics were filmed. He perfected the choreographic techniques and stuntman tricks which brought realism to screen fighting. At the same time he decried pornography, and blood, and gore in films. "That's not sex and violence," he would say. "It's filth and bad taste." (R.Reagan)

Duke went to Vietnam in the early days of the war. He scorned VIP treatment, insisting that he visit the troops in the field. Once he even had his helicopter land in the midst of a battle. When he returned, he vowed to make a film about the heroism of Special Forces soldiers. (R.Reagan)

Duke's generosity and loyalty stood out in a city rarely known for either. When a friend needed work, that person went on his payroll. When a friend needed help, Duke's wallet was open. He also was loyal to his fans. One writer tells of the night he and Duke were in Dallas for the premiere of Chisum. Returning late to his hotel, Duke found a message from a woman who said her little girl lay critically ill in a local hospital. The woman wrote, "It would mean so much to her if you could pay her just a brief visit." At 3 o'clock in the morning he took off for the hospital where he visited the astonished child and every other patient on the hospital floor who happened to be awake. (R.Reagan)

I saw his loyalty in action many times. I remember that when Duke and Jimmy Stewart were on their way to my second inauguration as governor of California they encountered a crowd of demonstrators under the banner of the Vietcong flag. Jimmy had just lost a son in Vietnam. Duke excused himself for a moment and walked into the crowd. In a moment there was no Vietcong flag. (R.Reagan)

Fifteen years ago when Duke lost a lung in his first bout with cancer, studio press agents tried to conceal the nature of his illness. When Duke discovered this, he went before the public and showed us that a man can fight this dread disease. He went on to raise millions of dollars for private cancer research. Typically, he snorted: "We've got too much at stake to give government a monopoly in the fight against cancer."

Earlier this year, when doctors told Duke there was no hope, he urged them to use his body for experimental medical research, to further the search for a cure. He refused painkillers so he could be alert as he spent his last days with his children. (R.Reagan)

John Wayne was probably the biggest star in the world...yet he retained the qualities of a small boy. He had the enthusiasm for life that would make a high school football star envious.

And through it all, Duke never changed. As a man he was exactly the boy he started out. And as a friend...well, you just wouldn't want a better one.

In his lifetime, Duke stamped AMERICA across the face of the motion picture industry. Few other men, living or dead, have ever portrayed the fine, decent, and generous American qualities as Duke did.

He portrayed on screen the values he lived off screen. Gentle...so much so, it would have surprised his critics. Loyal...once your friend, always your friend. Courageous...if you doubt it, remember his fight against cancer, or the way he faced heart surgery. And decent. Above all, Duke was a decent man.

He was also far from perfect. He made his mistakes as I have made mine and you have made yours. All in all, I would say they were unintentional. Mistakes of the heart, I would say.

Let me say this about the John Wayne I knew. He was an Original. He was the Statue of his Times.

All in all, I think it was the man's integrity that speaks most of him. His principles never varied. Nor did his ideals. Nor did his faith in mankind."
........... Jimmy Stewart

JOHN WAYNE...
On His Political Philosophy
"I have found a certain type calls himself a Liberal...Now I always thought I was a Liberal. I came up terribly surprised one time when I found out that I was a Right-Wing Conservative Extremist, when I listened to everybody's point of view that I ever met, and then decided how I should feel. But this so-called new Liberal group, Jesus, they never listen to your point of view..."

Buddy Ebsen:
"He was a big man. He had a big generous heart and a big soul."

John Wayne made more than one trip to South Vietnam to entertain the troops. Often he would travel to the hot zones, regardless of the danger surrounding him.

Duke hated war but loved the American GI. He entertained them, inspired them, and they touched his life. Marine Capt. Steve Hanson sent his wife and little boy a picture the day before his aircraft was shot down in Laos. It showed him bare chested, wearing a helmet. On the back was written, "Me as John Wayne."

John Wayne wore Capt. Hanson's POW bracelet. Duke kept in touch with Hanson's wife and son, sending the boy presents and letters. One letter Duke wrote to Hanson's says, "I wish you wonderful life. Just don't expect too much out of it and you'll have some wonderful years. That's my sermon from the mount this year, Todd. Give 'em hell."

The Green Berets was John Wayne's tribute to the fighting men who came back, and to those, like Steve Hanson, who didn't.

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If the ABOVE tid-bits make the Duke a 'poser', then what exactly are YOU?

95 posted on 07/19/2003 9:20:34 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: mommadooo3
If the ABOVE tid-bits make the Duke a 'poser', then what exactly are YOU?

A veteran.

Thanks for the info, though. I didn't know all that about him. Your's and other responses have provided some new insight. But I always thought his movies (and his acting) sucked, and I suppose I always will.

On this board, you can't dislike John Wayne without being called a RINO, commie, or worse. But he was just an actor. It doesn't really matter.

96 posted on 07/19/2003 9:31:23 PM PDT by squidly
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To: squidly
I'd say with your ever so polite "Thanks for the info, though"....you sound like a passive aggressive little light in the loafers boy. And we definately don't need no "fruitcakes" on a thread about the Duke. So go nip at someone else's heels. We're not swayed by your fluff opinions.
97 posted on 07/20/2003 7:39:26 AM PDT by jhw61
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To: jhw61
Up thine
98 posted on 07/20/2003 7:43:07 AM PDT by squidly
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To: jhw61
If you'd prefer, I could follow your example and play tough guy behind the keyboard.
99 posted on 07/20/2003 7:55:03 AM PDT by squidly
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To: RJCogburn; Redleg Duke
Mr. Wayne was OSS during the war.

In the 70's he came to Aunt Marjy's house to pay a condolence call when Uncle Dick died since he was OSS as well.
100 posted on 07/20/2003 8:08:06 AM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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