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House Democrats Storm Out of Ways and Means Committee ("you little fruitcake")
Washington Post ^ | Friday, July 18, 2003

Posted on 07/18/2003 4:04:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway

By any standards, today represented a low point in the history of congressional comity. Democrats accused the GOP of running a police state; Republicans recounted how one Democratic member of the panel called a Republican colleague "you little fruitcake" in the midst of the standoff.

The blowup occurred as the panel began to mark up a wide-ranging pension bill sponsored by Reps. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.). The changes narrowed the original bill, but retained most of its key provisions.

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To: CholeraJoe
Nonsense. A gay Republican is not a "real gay", just like a black Republican is not really black, nor an American of hispanic descent actually Hispanic if they happen to be middle class.
21 posted on 07/18/2003 4:21:52 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: caisson71
What heavy hand? They have a narrow majority and don't have a strong enough vote to overrun the Democrats at all.
Wish we did.
22 posted on 07/18/2003 4:22:06 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
OK, not a super heavy hand but a heavy - solid majority in the House - enough hand.
23 posted on 07/18/2003 4:25:17 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: sam_paine
You know, Nick. When you start a thread like this, your post becomes a Carraway Seed.......

You know, you have a very rye sense of humor...

24 posted on 07/18/2003 4:26:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
But I thought the Demos were all about peace, love, and "conflict resolution". I'm sure the media will tell us later that evil meanie Republicans are just so mean and evil that even the intellectuals Demos snap and get angry at them occasionally.
25 posted on 07/18/2003 4:28:21 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (This space for rent, call 555-9388.)
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To: nickcarraway
You know, you have a very rye sense of humor...

He must have been bread to be that way.
26 posted on 07/18/2003 4:29:18 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: sam_paine
They love to use Social Security as one of their talking points against republicans. If they lose that, they only have the slavery issue left!
27 posted on 07/18/2003 4:31:09 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: dark_lord
A gay Republican is not a "real gay",

I know a couple of gay Republicans who would be happy to discuss that remark with you in a karate dojo. They were two of the finest men I ever worked with. Both more conservative than me, which is saying something. Hated Clinton, loved Reagan and both Bushes and broken-glass pubbies.

28 posted on 07/18/2003 4:32:46 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're baaaaad. We're Nationwide)
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To: adam_az
After several minutes, Thomas again asked unanimous consent to dispense with the reading, and instantly brought down his gavel. Stark said later that he had objected, and Thomas had replied, "You're too late.

BWA-HA-HAAAAAAAA!

29 posted on 07/18/2003 4:34:01 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: pogo101
>You know, you have a very rye sense of humor...

>He must have been bread to be that way.

No matter which way you slice it
30 posted on 07/18/2003 4:34:17 PM PDT by 1forall
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To: nickcarraway
The dispute highlights how rapidly relations between Democrats and Republicans have deteriorated in recent months.

Meaning .. since Nancy took charge

Oh and I like how they ask for a reading line by line because they claim to not know what was in it and then proceeded to leave the room

It kind of reminds me of when congress demanded that members of the Bush Administration come to the Hill to explain why were going into Iraq and yet many of the Dems failed to show up for that also

31 posted on 07/18/2003 4:38:30 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: CholeraJoe
And you missed my obvious sarcasm? I figured with three examples no one would miss it.
32 posted on 07/18/2003 4:38:37 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: CholeraJoe
Stark insulted Thomas's intellect and then called Congressman McInnis a "fruitcake."
33 posted on 07/18/2003 4:39:06 PM PDT by tabsternager
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To: CholeraJoe
He meant to say a gay republican is not an authentic gay
34 posted on 07/18/2003 4:45:10 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: CholeraJoe
A gay Republican is not a "real gay"

IMHO...I think the difference is conservative and CONSERVATIVE

gay and GAY..an "in-your-face" kind of thing.

35 posted on 07/18/2003 4:46:02 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: dark_lord
I observed and appreciated your sarcasm. My friends were so ashamed of their gay brethren who were "in your face" gay. Neither tried to hide it. Neither flaunted it. They never let sexual preference interfere with truly conservative views.
36 posted on 07/18/2003 4:56:24 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're baaaaad. We're Nationwide)
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To: CholeraJoe
I think he meant in the same sense that Clarence Thomas is not a "real black" to the Dems
37 posted on 07/18/2003 5:01:24 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: adam_az
"You little fruitcake."

I believe that's what's known as a Freudian Slip.

38 posted on 07/18/2003 5:04:18 PM PDT by yooper
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To: CholeraJoe
Kolbe isn't on Ways & Means. I think I heard on the radio that Stark was addressing Jim McCrery, who is on that committee.
39 posted on 07/18/2003 5:06:10 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: nickcarraway
OL' Fortney is truly a 'man of the people.' Here is a paste from the "Contact Pete" sectionof his web site:

Contact Pete

13th Congressional District Residents

Due to congressional courtesy, I can only provide specific responses to people who reside in California's 13th District. To assure that I receive your e-mail, I use the Write Your Representative Service, which will confirm that you are a constituent. Any information you provide will only be used by my office to respond to your e-mail. (View Privacy Policy)

You will also be provided with an automated response indicating that I have received your e-mail. If you don't get this response notify postmaster@stark.house.gov

For people who live outside the 13th Congressional District

Even though I may not respond directly, I appreciate hearing your views so feel free to e-mail me at petemail@stark.house.gov You will get an automated response indicating that I have received your e-mail.

Note:

Due to anthrax threats on congressional offices, all incoming mail to my office is now delayed by U.S. Postal Service screening. I encourage you to send your letter to my Fremont office or contact me through other means, such as clicking here to send me an email. using the Write Your Representative Service. We ask for your understanding if your postal mail is not received in a timely manner.
40 posted on 07/18/2003 5:06:49 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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