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DAVID KELLY GOES AWOL

Posted on 07/18/2003 1:34:00 AM PDT by Big Bad Bob

The man, according to BBC Journalist Andrew Gilligan, to have told him that some parts of the so-called 'dodgy dossier' has gone missing, according to Sky News.


TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andrewgilligan; bbc; bbcbias; bioweapons; blair; davidkelly; dodgydossier; kelly; mediafraud; microbiologist; missing; no10; portondown; sexedup; tonyblair; uninspectionteam; vincefoster
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To: piasa
Anyone who has the interest and a spare moment should check out this link at fas.org from 1998. It mentions a bit about Kelly, who talks about his concerns over Iraq's bio program in particular. The article, by Laurie Mylroie, also mentions Iraq and terrorism, the first WTC attack in particular. What did Toon know and when did he know it...?
41 posted on 07/18/2003 5:14:52 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: MJY1288
Arkancide?

I wondered how long 'til you put forth that theory: I knew if I looked around long enough I'd find you! (Sure the first thing I thought of!)
42 posted on 07/18/2003 5:14:57 AM PDT by Fawnn (It's official! I'm now: Fair Funkle Fawnn!)
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To: Miss Marple
>>I think it is interesting that Fox broke this as a "news alert."<<

Oh please. Fox breaks WIND and it's a news alert.
43 posted on 07/18/2003 5:18:00 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: AAABEST
Somebody please explain thje implications of this in one paragraph.

How about one sentence?

This may develop into a conspiracy theory and a scandal of epic proportions.

44 posted on 07/18/2003 5:19:48 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon (The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work unless it's open.)
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To: Big Bad Bob
I thought Kelly was the name of the guy with all the huge WMD documentation that the US is going through right now? What was his name?
45 posted on 07/18/2003 5:20:07 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: Miss Marple
Ah, crap. Nevermind. The material in the second referenced date might be garbage or misinfo. It's referenced to a FR thread that has no source on the article instead of being referenced to the original source. The poster might have picked it of off Debka.

This might be a better link to Porton Down that has dates:

Anthrax Type That Killed May Have Reached Iraq

46 posted on 07/18/2003 5:20:25 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
You are quite right. I just wish he had been a chemical weapons expert, instead.
47 posted on 07/18/2003 5:21:08 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: nina0113
LOL! That is true, except that they are running repeated stories from Oxfordshire with satellite hook-up. The news anchors are following this. Either it is a big story in the UK (which I think it is) or they have found another murder story with enough experts to replace Laci Peterson.
48 posted on 07/18/2003 5:25:51 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: piasa
British author on now saying that this death may cause a full-scale judicial inquiry.
49 posted on 07/18/2003 5:27:08 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: piasa; Miss Marple
OK, now I figured out where that came from: The Telegraph:

Iraq's chemists bought anthrax from America
(Filed: 18/10/2001)

Saddam's bio-warfare scientists were trained in Britain and sent off for bacteria by mail order, reports Roger Highfield

THE intelligence community has focused on Iraq as a possible source of the anthrax used in the bio-terrorist attacks in America.

If Iraq is the culprit, it is likely that Saddam Hussein would have used one of 21 strains of the anthrax bacterium which his scientists bought by mail order from America in the 1980s.

In a further irony, most of the leading scientists in the Iraqi bio-warfare programme, including its project chief, Rihab Rashida Taha, were trained in Britain.

In 1995, three years before the United Nations special commission weapons inspectors were forced to pull out of the country, Iraq admitted that it had produced 2,000 gallons of anthrax.

The UN destroyed most of those supplies, but officials believe that Baghdad hid four times as much as was discovered.

Iraq still has the best biological expertise in the region and experts agree that, since the UN inspectors left, Saddam has been back in the bio-warfare business.

Britain has played an unwitting role in arming Iraq, although a spokesman for the successor to Unscom - the UN monitoring, verification and inspection commission - said: "There is not an awful lot of difference between making vaccines and making bio-weapons - it is a bit unfair to mark those who supplied Iraq as guilty."

British companies exported to Iraq large quantities of the growth media in which biological weapons are cultivated and its leading scientists were trained here.

The covert biological weapons research programme was directed by Gen Amer Saadi, who obtained a masters degree in chemistry at Oxford, and Rihab Taha, who studied microbiology at the University of East Anglia, said Richard Spertzel, the UN's former chief biological inspector.

Overall supervision was conducted by Saddam Hussein's son-in-law, Hussein Kamel, the director of Iraq's Military-Industrial Corp, and Ahmed Murthada, a British-trained engineer.

The country's biological weapons programme is believed to have started in 1974 at Salman Pak in the al-Hazan Ibn al-Hathem Institute, where Dr Taha arrived in 1980.

Five years later, Salman Pak was taken over by the Technical Research Centre and, in 1987, Dr Taha moved her team into the new al-Hakem facility at Salman Pak, where construction of facilities for production of anthrax began, among other agents.

At the time of the Gulf war, Iraq later acknowledged the large-scale production of anthrax spores and to have filled 50 bombs and five missile warheads with anthrax.

However, even in its "full, final and complete declaration" regarding its BW programme, submitted in September 1997, Baghdad continued to present the UN weapons inspectors with a false picture.

Iraq approached Porton Down in Britain for the Ames strain of the anthrax bacterium, said Dr Spertzel. "That [request] was fortunately denied," he said.

Iraq obtained much of its anthrax supply from the American Type Culture Collection. Between 1985 and 1989, it obtained at least 21 strains of anthrax from ATCC and about 15 other class III pathogens, the bacteria that pose an extreme risk to human health.

One strain had a British military pedigree and three of the other strains were listed as coming from the American military's biological warfare programme.

This came as a shock, said Dr Spertzel, although he added that at that time the ATCC had a policy to supply laboratories with credible reputations. The anthrax strains were ordered by the University of Baghdad and then diverted to the bio-warfare effort.

Mohamed Atta, the September 11 hijacker, reportedly had encounters with an Iraqi operative in Prague as recently as April and there have been reports of meetings between Iraqi agents and associates of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.

However, Dr Spertzel added that what took place in these encounters, and whether bio-warfare was discussed, was a matter of speculation.

50 posted on 07/18/2003 5:28:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: sam_paine
Not the same guy- the guy you're thinking of is American.
51 posted on 07/18/2003 5:30:52 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Big Bad Bob
FoxNews just announced confirmation from British government that the body IS that of Prof. David Kelly. Still no word about whether it is homicide or natural causes.
52 posted on 07/18/2003 5:37:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: piasa
Yeah, but has anyone ever seen the two of them together? Hmmm? This conspiracy could get REALLY hugh. Series, even.
53 posted on 07/18/2003 5:45:14 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: TomGuy
Well, I am hoping it was natural causes, such as a heart attack from massive but undetected coronary disease.

Otherwise, this will be a nightmare for the Blair government.

The person/persons unknown who might have bumped him off would have a vested interest in doing so at this time. It deflects attention from whoever the real mole is, it keeps Kelly from answering any questions, and it causes a huge stink in Britain.

54 posted on 07/18/2003 5:45:52 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple; aristeides; All
So, are Kelly and Don Wiley together in that great lab in the sky?

Will Niman comment on this?

55 posted on 07/18/2003 5:56:36 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Miss Marple
It has already started, already on talk radio in Chicago, liberal callers are calling this a "Bush/Blair Hit Job". By the end of this weekend the international media, and even some in the US media will be calling this a conspiracy between Bush and the CIA to knock off anybody that can give them trouble. If he is "bumped off", couldn't it be a "enemy attack" to cause everybody to "double think the double think" and blame it on conservatives? The liberals are going to eat this up and make hay of it. Double BARF!
56 posted on 07/18/2003 5:57:21 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: piasa
Was he a marxist?
57 posted on 07/18/2003 6:11:21 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Socialism is for the little people." -- E. Leet)
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To: riri; blam; backhoe; Judith Anne; Shermy
http://newsandviews2.tripod.com/news/bioweapons.html

Down towards the bottom,read about Kelly inspecting Iraq.
58 posted on 07/18/2003 6:14:26 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: TomGuy
Here's the Beeb's story.
59 posted on 07/18/2003 6:19:16 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; All
From a linked article from your linked article above...

"Part of his job is to brief journalists on defence issues."
60 posted on 07/18/2003 6:38:30 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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