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1 posted on 07/15/2003 6:35:54 PM PDT by Concordant_Opposition
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2 posted on 07/15/2003 6:36:43 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
I guess Perry thinks Clinton's way of appeasing North Korea was better. He doesn't seem to understand that it was Clinton's way that brought us to the point where we are now.
3 posted on 07/15/2003 6:38:44 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Mr Perry oversaw former US president Bill Clinton's plan ...

"Mr. Perry" is clearly somebody we should listen to (NOT!).

4 posted on 07/15/2003 6:39:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Im awarding this to Sec.Perry........


5 posted on 07/15/2003 6:43:11 PM PDT by cmsgop (Has anyone seen my Schwab ?)
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To: Concordant_Opposition; harpseal; belmont_mark; Travis McGee; Squantos
...an increasingly worried China intervened, revealing a push for talks and sending a special envoy to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-il.

I don't trust the ChiComms at all. I do not believe NK blows its nose without the PRC knowing about it and being a part of it.

There are wheels within wheels going on here...China has us watching one hand while another veiled hand potentially does something entirely different IMHO...particularly when the Clinton era man jumps into the middle of it and warns us about the very outcome of their own actions.

Very dangerous times...similar in potential strategy (outside of the specific type of threat) to what I describe in my novel series, (ie NK drawing us in while China pretends to mediate, until the SHTF, then they pile on too).

6 posted on 07/15/2003 6:44:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Just how many would it take in retribution to wipe NK off the map?
7 posted on 07/15/2003 6:44:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Mr Perry said the US policy on North Korea was in disarray, with President George Bush to blame for an absence of negotiations.

Given what happened during his watch, you would think that these jokers would learn that negotiations for negotiation's sake is nothing but a waste of time.

9 posted on 07/15/2003 6:49:55 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Re-arm Japan!
10 posted on 07/15/2003 7:13:05 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis R. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Poor Puppet Perry...In the article it say.. "Mr Perry oversaw former US president Bill Clinton's plan" .. which resulted in .. "a deal was reached with Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions in return for energy aid." The article goes on to state that NOW.. "North Korea had begun reprocessing spent nuclear fuel rods to make weapons-grade plutonium"..

Would Mr. Perry or the writer of this article like to take a wild stab as what the TRUE end results of Bubba's "energy aid" really was?

11 posted on 07/15/2003 7:17:47 PM PDT by jungleboy
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To: Concordant_Opposition
The sad reality now is that the American public nor the world in general will believe this report until the N. Koreans actually light up a nuke. Any thoughts of pre-emptive strikes got flushed with the Niger report and Cheney's reputation.
12 posted on 07/15/2003 7:18:13 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: Concordant_Opposition
China - a mentor of North Korea - had intervened

China should have intervened years ago. China has a responsibility that cannot be denied, partly because of China's military support for NK during the Korean War and partly because China is the dominant neighboring country. If China can't keep the peace, then that's about the end of it.

13 posted on 07/15/2003 7:18:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
"I think we are losing control of the situation," said the Clinton-era defence chief.

I'll believe Perry ... umm .. NEVER!

15 posted on 07/15/2003 7:23:26 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Concordant_Opposition
Also, I hope we are *not* destroying the Peacekeeper missiles. We only have 50, mirv'd to 10 each. The Minutemen are all demirv to have 1 warhead and a bunch of decoys.

I think we need to say to hell with STARTII and keep these going. I suppose the Trident D5's are enough to wipe out the enemies.. And I assume we still have air launched cruise missiles that are nuke tipped. Those could be useful, but the sheer power of the Peacemaker is needed (and I hope upgraded to the 475kt warheads over the 350kt standards).

I figure we still have Pershings and stuff that can be used tactically, and of course the B61's can be set to real low yield.

6-8 months from now, this crap's gonna hit it. There's just no way with all this war talk that it'll blow over. Every damn day there's a new chestbeating form nk. I think they know they have China on their side on this, and that's why they are so brazen.
20 posted on 07/15/2003 7:31:44 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Concordant_Opposition
He warned that North Korea could soon begin exporting nuclear weapons to terrorists and other adversaries

Oh brother, here we go again. Where's Tony Blair?

Richard W.

39 posted on 07/15/2003 7:58:48 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
I see we haven't paid enough attention to the children running North Korea. I guess they want their time in the sandbox. They want a war? Well, let's give them one. They couldn't possibly muster an army willing to fight more than a day.
45 posted on 07/15/2003 8:03:23 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
P.S. This has nothing to do with Bush, Klintoon, or anyone else. This is just a big cry-baby leadership wanting attention and are willing to throw a fit to get it.
46 posted on 07/15/2003 8:04:30 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: Concordant_Opposition
"I think he has come to the conclusion that Kim Jong-il is evil and loathsome and it is immoral to negotiate with him," Mr Perry said. If that's Dubya's position, can't say I disagree.
49 posted on 07/15/2003 8:08:28 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Concordant_Opposition
If they'd nuke San Franciso and/or Hollywood, I wouldn't be too upset. Just kidding or am I? ;)
70 posted on 07/15/2003 9:03:44 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Concordant_Opposition
that the US and North Korea are drifting towards war

What war? A couple of our bombers ought to be able to take out their reactors and plants, rather like the Israeli's did to Iraq in the 80's. A surgical strike is all that is required. Why didn't they do it long ago?
72 posted on 07/15/2003 9:27:14 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Concordant_Opposition
BUMP
73 posted on 07/15/2003 9:29:35 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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