US warned of 'imminent' nuclear peril

The Age (Australia) ^ | 7/16/2003 | Shane Green & Louise Dodson

[Concordant_Opposition]

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[Peach]

I guess Perry thinks Clinton's way of appeasing North Korea was better. He doesn't seem to understand that it was Clinton's way that brought us to the point where we are now.

[livius]

Mr Perry oversaw former US president Bill Clinton's plan ...

"Mr. Perry" is clearly somebody we should listen to (NOT!).

[cmsgop]

Im awarding this to Sec.Perry........

[Jeff Head]

...an increasingly worried China intervened, revealing a push for talks and sending a special envoy to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-il.

I don't trust the ChiComms at all. I do not believe NK blows its nose without the PRC knowing about it and being a part of it.

There are wheels within wheels going on here...China has us watching one hand while another veiled hand potentially does something entirely different IMHO...particularly when the Clinton era man jumps into the middle of it and warns us about the very outcome of their own actions.

Very dangerous times...similar in potential strategy (outside of the specific type of threat) to what I describe in my novel series, (ie NK drawing us in while China pretends to mediate, until the SHTF, then they pile on too).

[Paladin2]

Just how many would it take in retribution to wipe NK off the map?

[virgil]

Especially with the Clinton administration's abundant experience with nuclear brinkmanship.

[Ruth A.]

Mr Perry said the US policy on North Korea was in disarray, with President George Bush to blame for an absence of negotiations.

Given what happened during his watch, you would think that these jokers would learn that negotiations for negotiation's sake is nothing but a waste of time.

[nonliberal]

Re-arm Japan!

[jungleboy]

Poor Puppet Perry...In the article it say.. "Mr Perry oversaw former US president Bill Clinton's plan" .. which resulted in .. "a deal was reached with Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions in return for energy aid." The article goes on to state that NOW.. "North Korea had begun reprocessing spent nuclear fuel rods to make weapons-grade plutonium"..

Would Mr. Perry or the writer of this article like to take a wild stab as what the TRUE end results of Bubba's "energy aid" really was?

[Ranger]

The sad reality now is that the American public nor the world in general will believe this report until the N. Koreans actually light up a nuke. Any thoughts of pre-emptive strikes got flushed with the Niger report and Cheney's reputation.

[RightWhale]

China - a mentor of North Korea - had intervened

China should have intervened years ago. China has a responsibility that cannot be denied, partly because of China's military support for NK during the Korean War and partly because China is the dominant neighboring country. If China can't keep the peace, then that's about the end of it.

[Monty22]

Why we didn't go to war with the USSR for using Mig-15 pilots (Soviet pilots) and declare war on China for getting involved I'll never know.

Bonehead mistake on Truman's part. Kennedy wouldn't have put up with that, nor Reagan or Bush.

So now we face the elimination of Seoul, Tokyo, and possibly US cities over this blunder. If China gets involved again, we'd be fools not to declare war on them and use tactical nuclear weapons on their incoming soldiers. This may lead to a pretty decent sized nuclear war, but the alternative is far worse.

[Dont Mention the War]

"I think we are losing control of the situation," said the Clinton-era defence chief.

I'll believe Perry ... umm .. NEVER!

[Vigilanteman]

U.S. to China position should be:

Control your spoiled brat even if it means spanking them so hard Baby Kim is tossed from power. Otherwise, you will have sold your last gizmo in any mall in America.

[Pharmboy]

We must make it CRYSTAL clear to the NKs that if any US city is touched by nuclear weaponry that originated in NK, they will all be vaporized. Period.

[RightWhale]

If China gets involved again, we'd be fools not to declare war on them

I suspect that China will be on board to some degree. If China is involved militarily they should be working with us. If it is otherwise, everyone is in for some rough times and it won't be over soon.

[Filibuster_60]

Why we didn't go to war with the USSR for using Mig-15 pilots (Soviet pilots) and declare war on China for getting involved I'll never know.

Simple answer: We didn't want another world war only 5 years after the last one ended. Defeating the Communist bloc would have required millions of US troops and tens of billions of dollars - at a time when the American people were only beginning to enjoy the fruits of the post-WWII economic boom. It was made worse by the fact that the USSR had acquired nukes, even if it didn't yet have the missiles to deliver them.

There was really just a 4-year-window - 1945 to 1949 - to strike the Communist alliance decisively, before we lost our monopoly on atomic weaponry. After that, the costs of defeating Communism simply outweighed whatever material benefits it would have brought us.

[Monty22]

Also, I hope we are *not* destroying the Peacekeeper missiles. We only have 50, mirv'd to 10 each. The Minutemen are all demirv to have 1 warhead and a bunch of decoys.

I think we need to say to hell with STARTII and keep these going. I suppose the Trident D5's are enough to wipe out the enemies.. And I assume we still have air launched cruise missiles that are nuke tipped. Those could be useful, but the sheer power of the Peacemaker is needed (and I hope upgraded to the 475kt warheads over the 350kt standards).

I figure we still have Pershings and stuff that can be used tactically, and of course the B61's can be set to real low yield.

6-8 months from now, this crap's gonna hit it. There's just no way with all this war talk that it'll blow over. Every damn day there's a new chestbeating form nk. I think they know they have China on their side on this, and that's why they are so brazen.