Posted on 07/15/2003 11:16:01 AM PDT by Polycarp
Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study
AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-called homosexual "marriage," a new study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on average, only one-and-a-half years.
The study is based on the health records of young Dutch homosexuals by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service and published in the May issue of the journal AIDS. It also found that men in homosexual relationships have an average of eight partners a year outside their main partnership, adding more evidence to the "stereotype" that homosexuals tend to be promiscuous.
The findings are "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," said Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, who predicts that homosexual promiscuity will remain "rampant."
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Study finds gay unions brief
By Amy Fagan
Published July 11, 2003
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A recent study on homosexual relationships finds they last 1-1/2 years on average — even as homosexual groups are pushing nationwide to legalize same-sex "marriages."
The study of young Dutch homosexual men by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service, published in May in the journal AIDS, mirrors findings of past research.
Among heterosexuals, by contrast, 67 percent of first marriages in the United States last at least 10 years, and researchers report that more than three-quarters of married people say they have been faithful to their vows.
Same-sex "marriage" has gained new attention since a Supreme Court decision last month struck down state laws against homosexual behavior. Conservative activists say they expect the state Supreme Court in Massachusetts to rule this weekend on whether to recognize homosexual "marriages."
The Dutch study — which focused on transmission of HIV — found that men in homosexual relationships on average have eight partners a year outside those relationships.
Earlier studies also indicated that homosexual men are not monogamous, even when they are involved in long-term relationships.
In "The Male Couple," published in 1984, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison report that in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting anywhere from one to 37 years, all couples with relationships more than five years had incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity.
"Fidelity is not defined in terms of sexual behavior but rather by their emotional commitment to each other," the authors said. "Ninety-five percent of the couples have an arrangement whereby the partners may have sexual activity with others."
Such findings show how recognition of same-sex unions would "erode the ideal" of traditional marriage, Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute.
"They're redefining what it means to be monogamous," Mr. LaBarbara said. "It's just preposterous to claim that these relationships even approximate normal, steady relationships."
The Amsterdam study is "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," Mr. LaBarbara said.
But homosexual groups say recent data indicate that homosexual relationships look increasingly like heterosexual marriage.
About 40 percent of homosexual couples had been together in a household for at least five years, compared to roughly 60 percent of married heterosexual couples who had been together at least that long, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data produced for the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Foundation.
The HRC analysis found that relationships were shortest for unmarried heterosexual partners living together, only 18 percent of whom had been together in the household for at least five years.
"Anecdotally, there's quite a bit of evidence that as gays and lesbians are becoming more accepted, you're finding greater levels of stability," said Gary Gates, a researcher for the Urban Institute who compiled the data for HRC, which supports same-sex "marriage."
Mr. Gates said 25 percent of male homosexual couples had children in the household and 38 percent of lesbian couples had children in the household, compared with 48 percent of heterosexual married couples. And 66 percent of the male homosexual couples and 68 percent of lesbian couples owned their home, compared with 81 percent of heterosexual married couples. He said these are signs of increasing stability.
David Smith, spokesman for HRC, dismissed the Amsterdam study, saying he personally has been in a monogamous relationship for 10 years and, "most gay people I know have been in relationships many, many years and they're absolutely monogamous."
He said his personal experience is that homosexuals settle down just like heterosexuals.
He also said those throwing out "wild charges" that homosexuals are promiscuous are hypocritical because they will not let same-sex couples have marriage rights, which would provide even more stability under the law.
But Mr. LaBarbara said marriage would not change the promiscuity he called "rampant" among homosexuals. He said on the contrary, same-sex "marriage" would just "erode [marriage] further."
The state of Vermont has allowed civil unions between same-sex couples since 2000, and a study by two University of Vermont psychology professors compared homosexual couples in civil unions with homosexual couples not in unions, and married heterosexual couples.
Among the Vermont findings, the overwhelming majority of women — both lesbians and married heterosexuals — felt it was not acceptable to have sex outside of their primary relationship. However, 79 percent of married men felt sex outside marriage was not OK, compared to 34 percent of homosexual men in committed relationships and 50 percent of homosexual men in civil unions.
But such open relationships — in which homosexual men accept that their partners will have sex with others — are not harmful, said Anne Peplau, a psychology professor at the University of California at Los Angeles.
"There is clear evidence that gay men are less likely to have sexually exclusive relationships than other people — but this is not typically harmful to their relationships because partners agree that it's acceptable," said Miss Peplau. "Many heterosexual men also are non-monogamous, but may be more secretive about their behavior."
However, Peter Sprigg, director of Marriage and Family Studies at the Family Research Council, pointed to a 1997 national survey published in the Journal of Sex Research that found 77 percent of married men and 88 percent of married women had remained faithful to their marriage vows.
According to 2001 data from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), 67 percent of first marriages last 10 years, and 50 percent last 20 years. Marriages involving teenagers are more prone to divorce; for marriages in which the bride is at least age 20, about 60 percent last 20 years, according to NCHS data.
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Is that something that bothers you dear? Do you dislike social conservatives?
"The researchers report a high rate of battering within the context of intimate homosexual partnerships, with 39% of those studied reporting at least one type of battering by a partner over the last five years."
--The American Journal of Public Health (December 2002, Vol. 92, No. 12)
"Homosexual activists David Island and Patrick Letellier -- both of San Francisco and co-editors of the National Gay and Lesbian Domestic Violence Network Newsletter -- write in their book, Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them, that domestic violence is a primary health problem for individuals involved in homosexual behavior ranking behind only AIDS for males, cancer for females, and drug abuse for both."
"Island and Letellier write: "The probability of violence occurring in a gay couple is mathematically double the probability of that in a heterosexual couple...we believe as many as 650,000 gay men may be victims of domestic violence each year in the United States." (Page 14)"
--American Family Association of Michigan
breakem appears to refer to himself as gay here.
Not really. If you're going to justfy and compare your pet perversion to a normal man woman relationship expect to justify it for others...if you can't or won't it just reveals your hypocritically flawed political philosophy.
You failed to clarify and answer my questions
Ummm...as much as you'd like me to "clarify" your own questions for you it would be nearly immpossible to know what's in the mind of someone who hasn't the capacity to understand their own feckless arguments. As far as answering your question, try asking one...I'd know it if you used one of those question mark "thingys" at the end of your sentenece.
and then you keep repeating the same question from thread to thread after I responded. I consider that stalking and it's clearly a violation of the rules.
and then, and then...(Sound of sniveling) I'm flattered but you are in a long line of Liberaltarians who show up on the sodomy threads comparing perversion to a normal man woman relationship, if you or the rest of your ilk keep making the same ludicrous comparisons so will I. Now either get a pair and justufy your silly hypocritical position, ignore me or stop whining when your logic falls apart. Either way stop sending me threats to my private mail and stop flattering your self that I'm "stalking" you.
I_Love_My_Husband called breakem a Liberaltarian and breakem freepmailed her back saying I asked you to stop the name calling.
BWAHAHAHAAAA....breakem thinks a political statement is name calling?
BWAHAHAHAAAA....stop it...my side is hurting...I can't take it any more...
Is that right breakem? Are you just another GLAAD subversive trying to justify perversion on FreeRepublic? That explains a lot. No wonder you're so "sensitive".
I agree.
It's worth noting that the author of that bill is small-l libertarian Marilyn Musgrave.
Please see my post #55.
That probably makes you a hypocrite.
Like so many of your questions Clint the question about my sexual preference has been answered. In fact I know I made references in replies to you that answered the question. You can try to remember or keep playing Sherlock Holmes.
Since you took so much time to recap our exchanges because you seem to think you are onto something, let's hear the rest of the story.
I have said that adults have a right to have sex with other adults as long as they are not forced. The absence of force is the essence of a free decision.
I also said that you cannot enter into a mutual contract with children or animals because they cannot legally consent. About the only other position I took was that the constitution does not claim as a purpose to name all human rights. and I have given numerous other examples of human rights which are not in the constitution and which the government cannot take away.
You have stated that you can have sex with your blow-up doll and pets because they are all your property. I stated that my standard was consent and that property cannot consent.
About two weeks ago you made some off-the-wall remark about my position on the 10th amendment. Your remark made no sense to me and I asked you several times to clarify it. You have ridiculed me and chased me from thread to thread since then repeating your question about kids and animals. I have asked you to stop and you continue only to ridicule.
You asked me to explain the difference between having sex with inanimate property and pets. The question is very ignorant in my opinion and I will not address it. I have told you this half a dozen times. If you continue it, I'll ask the administrator to stop you.
If you want to engage me in a dialogue, you will address me respectfully or I will report you. I will not tolerate stalking. If you have something civil to ask or add do so, I've been here amost 5 years and I don't run, but I also don't tolerate stalking.
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