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Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | July 14, 2003 | LifeSiteNews.com

Posted on 07/15/2003 11:16:01 AM PDT by Polycarp

Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study

AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-called homosexual "marriage," a new study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on average, only one-and-a-half years.

The study is based on the health records of young Dutch homosexuals by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service and published in the May issue of the journal AIDS. It also found that men in homosexual relationships have an average of eight partners a year outside their main partnership, adding more evidence to the "stereotype" that homosexuals tend to be promiscuous.

The findings are "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," said Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, who predicts that homosexual promiscuity will remain "rampant."

See Washington Times coverage:

http://dynamic.washtimes.com/print_story.cfm?StoryID=20030711-121254-3711r

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Study finds gay unions brief

By Amy Fagan

Published July 11, 2003

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A recent study on homosexual relationships finds they last 1-1/2 years on average — even as homosexual groups are pushing nationwide to legalize same-sex "marriages."

The study of young Dutch homosexual men by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service, published in May in the journal AIDS, mirrors findings of past research.

Among heterosexuals, by contrast, 67 percent of first marriages in the United States last at least 10 years, and researchers report that more than three-quarters of married people say they have been faithful to their vows.

Same-sex "marriage" has gained new attention since a Supreme Court decision last month struck down state laws against homosexual behavior. Conservative activists say they expect the state Supreme Court in Massachusetts to rule this weekend on whether to recognize homosexual "marriages."

The Dutch study — which focused on transmission of HIV — found that men in homosexual relationships on average have eight partners a year outside those relationships.

Earlier studies also indicated that homosexual men are not monogamous, even when they are involved in long-term relationships.

In "The Male Couple," published in 1984, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison report that in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting anywhere from one to 37 years, all couples with relationships more than five years had incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity.

"Fidelity is not defined in terms of sexual behavior but rather by their emotional commitment to each other," the authors said. "Ninety-five percent of the couples have an arrangement whereby the partners may have sexual activity with others."

Such findings show how recognition of same-sex unions would "erode the ideal" of traditional marriage, Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute.

"They're redefining what it means to be monogamous," Mr. LaBarbara said. "It's just preposterous to claim that these relationships even approximate normal, steady relationships."

The Amsterdam study is "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," Mr. LaBarbara said.

But homosexual groups say recent data indicate that homosexual relationships look increasingly like heterosexual marriage.

About 40 percent of homosexual couples had been together in a household for at least five years, compared to roughly 60 percent of married heterosexual couples who had been together at least that long, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data produced for the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Foundation.

The HRC analysis found that relationships were shortest for unmarried heterosexual partners living together, only 18 percent of whom had been together in the household for at least five years.

"Anecdotally, there's quite a bit of evidence that as gays and lesbians are becoming more accepted, you're finding greater levels of stability," said Gary Gates, a researcher for the Urban Institute who compiled the data for HRC, which supports same-sex "marriage."

Mr. Gates said 25 percent of male homosexual couples had children in the household and 38 percent of lesbian couples had children in the household, compared with 48 percent of heterosexual married couples. And 66 percent of the male homosexual couples and 68 percent of lesbian couples owned their home, compared with 81 percent of heterosexual married couples. He said these are signs of increasing stability.

David Smith, spokesman for HRC, dismissed the Amsterdam study, saying he personally has been in a monogamous relationship for 10 years and, "most gay people I know have been in relationships many, many years and they're absolutely monogamous."

He said his personal experience is that homosexuals settle down just like heterosexuals.

He also said those throwing out "wild charges" that homosexuals are promiscuous are hypocritical because they will not let same-sex couples have marriage rights, which would provide even more stability under the law.

But Mr. LaBarbara said marriage would not change the promiscuity he called "rampant" among homosexuals. He said on the contrary, same-sex "marriage" would just "erode [marriage] further."

The state of Vermont has allowed civil unions between same-sex couples since 2000, and a study by two University of Vermont psychology professors compared homosexual couples in civil unions with homosexual couples not in unions, and married heterosexual couples.

Among the Vermont findings, the overwhelming majority of women — both lesbians and married heterosexuals — felt it was not acceptable to have sex outside of their primary relationship. However, 79 percent of married men felt sex outside marriage was not OK, compared to 34 percent of homosexual men in committed relationships and 50 percent of homosexual men in civil unions.

But such open relationships — in which homosexual men accept that their partners will have sex with others — are not harmful, said Anne Peplau, a psychology professor at the University of California at Los Angeles.

"There is clear evidence that gay men are less likely to have sexually exclusive relationships than other people — but this is not typically harmful to their relationships because partners agree that it's acceptable," said Miss Peplau. "Many heterosexual men also are non-monogamous, but may be more secretive about their behavior."

However, Peter Sprigg, director of Marriage and Family Studies at the Family Research Council, pointed to a 1997 national survey published in the Journal of Sex Research that found 77 percent of married men and 88 percent of married women had remained faithful to their marriage vows.

According to 2001 data from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), 67 percent of first marriages last 10 years, and 50 percent last 20 years. Marriages involving teenagers are more prone to divorce; for marriages in which the bride is at least age 20, about 60 percent last 20 years, according to NCHS data.

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To: Polycarp; laweeks
Looks like we need to know a whole lot more about this study to interpret it. What is a "relationship?" What is the AVERAGE length of a heterosexual "relationship?" Obviously, it's not the same as for heterosexual marriage. Does this mean that the guy who has been married for four and a half years, but had three six-month "relationships" in high school has an average relationship of 1.5 years? What about the guy who has been married for ten years, but has a one-night stand? Is his average five years and a few hours?
21 posted on 07/15/2003 1:57:58 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek
Surely you're not suggesting that statistics like this could be used to mislead or to distort the truth??? Why, I would be shocked... shocked I tell ya.
22 posted on 07/15/2003 2:45:18 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: Kahonek
Just out of curiosity, do you know any gays? Because I do and this study is right on the mark. I live in SF btw. Gays (and I don't know if you are one) are not monogamous and have short "relationships". In addition, I have yet to meet one that wasn't a Democrat.
23 posted on 07/15/2003 5:22:49 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Polycarp
And how long does the average heterosexual "relationship" last?
24 posted on 07/15/2003 5:32:03 PM PDT by Ganymede
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To: scripter
"Thousands etc" is that because of Exodus?
25 posted on 07/15/2003 5:42:20 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Polycarp
Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study

What? Don't tell me they've unionized now.

?;^)

26 posted on 07/15/2003 5:51:46 PM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Ganymede
This was addressed in the article, did you read more than just the title?
27 posted on 07/15/2003 6:07:57 PM PDT by Polycarp (Life's not like a box o choclates...it's like eatin jalapenos. What ya do now might burn ya tomorrow)
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To: Polycarp
You know the classical significance of Ganymede? He was some kind of sodomite - I can't remember the myth. Maybe watch out for this guy... I don't trust this one.
28 posted on 07/15/2003 9:29:55 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: robertpaulsen
[We]'re not promiscuous, but the reason we are promiscuous is because we don't have marriage rights.

WE?

29 posted on 07/15/2003 9:48:37 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
I know two gay couples who are married (by their own minister). One couple has been married 15 years and the other four. Now what was the point of asking people if they know any gay couples and what does it prove, nothing, the same as the "scientific" study.
30 posted on 07/15/2003 9:52:51 PM PDT by breakem
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To: BCrago66
I suspect that most people - even including most conservatives - feel the same.

You suspect wrong. The Federal Marriage Amendment – H.J. Res. 56 is alive and well. Assuming the 58% of americans finding the chosen behavior immoral and wrong are NO votes I'd say there's more who are neutral who'd vote no too. Funny perspective though.

31 posted on 07/15/2003 9:59:48 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: breakem
I know two gay couples who are married (by their own minister).

You know two perverts pretending to play house, neither the Bible nor the state recognizes either.

One couple has been married 15 years

And the incestuals “married” by their own “minister” and monogamously together for 15 years proves the same inane point, if one can compare perversion to a normal man/woman relationship then one can use the same logic to justify other perversions.

32 posted on 07/15/2003 10:13:25 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: diamond6
"Thousands etc" is that because of Exodus?

I'm sure Exodus plays a major part in it. I have a number of links from where homosexuals can get help to leave the lifestyle:


33 posted on 07/15/2003 10:13:38 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Gee I guess their minister must have forgot to ask you what to do.

Your answer has nothing to do with the context inwhich I addressed the other poster who was looking for proof of long-term relationships. Go off on a tangent all you want. Your slamming homos is getting old and tiring. Play with your fellow fanatics who want to impose your views on the rest of the populace.

Why not start a thread on incest and get your problems spelled out once and for all. You may know some relatives who found a minister to marry them, I don't. So create your own scenarios and argue with yourself.

34 posted on 07/15/2003 10:17:12 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
Still can't justify your own hypocrisy when presented with parallels eh? Thanks for not disappointing.
35 posted on 07/15/2003 10:22:44 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
You have created an idiotic situation, answer your own questions. You failed to clarify and answer my questions and then you keep repeating the same question from thread to thread after I responded. I consider that stalking and it's clearly a violation of the rules.
36 posted on 07/15/2003 10:24:54 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
I know two gay couples who are married (by their own minister). One couple has been married 15 years and the other four. Now what was the point of asking people if they know any gay couples and what does it prove, nothing, the same as the "scientific" study.

Your point is...?

37 posted on 07/15/2003 10:39:19 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: breakem
Your slamming homos is getting old and tiring. Play with your fellow fanatics who want to impose your views on the rest of the populace.

Are you a Liberaltarian?

38 posted on 07/15/2003 10:41:07 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Response to your 23, your knowledge of gay couples and my knowledge of gay couples counter each other. So what, proves nothing, just like this really, really scientific study. You could have deduced this by starting with your challenge to the other guy which is the post I replied to. Now as I told the other guy........................yawn! C-YA
39 posted on 07/15/2003 10:41:56 PM PDT by breakem
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Are you a religious fanatic?
40 posted on 07/15/2003 10:42:29 PM PDT by breakem
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