Exactly what is the gay 'agenda' and 'lifestyle'?

Amarillo Globe News ^ | July 15, 2003 | Greg Sagan

[FreedomCalls]

... you can't change someone else's sexual orientation. If you don't believe that, try changing your own.

I've always wanted to ask Anne Heche about that.

[weegee]

I suspect that is because you frequent sources which tell you what you want to hear. And because you don't frequent the heterosexual "red light" districts which exist in most cities of any size.

Houston is in the top 5 cities. Where is the "Red Light" district?

[Vermont Lt]

Perhaps this has been addressed earlier...but what would be the purpose of "recruiting" people to be gay? I dont get it. Are they trying to dominate the world? Are they trying to take over government so the furniture would be nicer and the paperwork color coded? I dont get it? What is their goal? To have more gays? To what end?

I stopped reading the posts when the question was raised about gerbils, bottles, etc. Find an emergency room nurse and ask about the messed up stuff that hetero's do as well. There are freaks all around us. If you think that homosexuals are the only people doing wierd stuff, you should put down the Readers Digest and talk to your neighbors a bit.

If someone could point me to the "homo conspiracy website" I would appreciate it. Because I obviously need to do some catching up...before one of them catches up with me! It might be a shock to my wife and kids that I could be "turned." (Pun intended)

[weegee]

If there is no "gay agenda", then why is there such a huge "gay lobby"?

Who pours millions into lobbying efforts, without an agenda??????

BUMP

[weegee]

what would be the purpose of "recruiting" people to be gay

Seduction is about getting laid. Persuing desires. Have sex with the person being "recruited".

That is what it is about. Clear?

[Hat-Trick]

The truth is, nobody really knows exactly how sexual preference works. This is just the icing on the heap of garbage that is the rest of the article.

Let's make this simple. When I want to know my sexual preference or "orientation", I look down the front of my pants and have an immediate preference/orientation towards the opposite sex because they have anatomy that was intelligently designed to work with mine. That's how sexual preference works. Anything else is just a choice that goes against our design, and calling it an "orientation" only serves to remove the personal responsibility for ignoring what was naturally intended.

Hat-Trick

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

There goal is normalization of the behavior not recruitment. They feel that if they can change societies values and attitudes, then they will feel less guilty about their abnormal sexual orientation. They've infiltrated every institution that effects the way we think; public schools, Universities, media, Hollywood.

Wake up. We aren't here to bash and hate, but to make a stand against this unmitigated blitzkrieg.

[Vermont Lt]

But that is not what these folks are talking about. They talk like there is some wicked big queer conspiracy.

And what are they afraid of? Do they think that they would be subject to this type of "seduction?" And dont come back with the "trying to get boy scouts" line, because it just doesnt fly.

I am 43 and no one has ever tried to suggest that I "try it." And I was a boy scout and an altar boy. I am not afraid that someone is going to start doing that now if we allow gay people the right to share property, make medical decisions for each other, and pass on wealth as you and I do. That doesnt seem like equal justice under the law?

Pedophiles should be taken care of harshly. But they are, by far, NOT gay. This is not about seduction. It is about not liking people who are different than you and I. This is not about the law, it is about difference between what you and I might perceive as moral and "right."

[Vermont Lt]

I must admit that there have been times in my life where I have engaged in behavior with my wife that does not fit your definition. Does that make me gay? Or just a pervert?

[Vermont Lt]

The fact that you know who Anne Heche is tells me that her "act" was contrived....and it worked.

She was a lousy actress on Another World. Sleeping with Ellen did not improve her work. It just improved her recognition.

[weegee]

You asked about "recruiting". That was what recruiting is.

The "agenda" is the norming of a sexual deviance. You do agree that this is deviant behavior even if it is legal behavior, don't you?

[weegee]

They've infiltrated every institution that effects the way we think; public schools, Universities, media, Hollywood.

Don't forget churches (and I'm not making a veiled referenced to molestation cases).

Same sex marriage ceremonies in churches and homosexual ministers are here. The question is how widespread they will become.

Practicing sodomites leading the services. To step forward as a sinner and repent is a great thing. To persist in such behavior is selfish.

[laweeks]

"That website is maintained by a group with a pre-set anti-gay agenda"

Facts is facts. You can choose to believe them or not. Besides, they don't have an "anti-gay agenda", but rather have an antihomosexual lifestyle message. But, obviously, some choose not to hear. And they, therefore, die young. I should think that over 6,000 samples would be statistically significant to most people.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

weegee, I can't believe I forgot about the sickest one....the left wing split offs of the major Protestant churches. I go to one and have engaged the pro gay pastor. The congregation is extremely conservative, but the institution is a s left as they come. If the congregattion knew they would leave in droves.

The queer movement has poisoned the church.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

You're right..there is a small pct of heterosexuals that are sexually deviant. However, 100% of homosexuals are sexually deviant.

I stand firm that deviations are caused by unhealthy parental role models or the absence of one.

Now I know why you choose to live in Vermont.

[savagesusie]

I bow to your expertise, I suppose. So all those altar boys are gay now?

Yes, a lot of the homosexual priests who confessed to the abuse of teenage boys had said that they were sexually abused as young boys by men. (The need to act out that abuse on others is as normal as men hitting women because they had watched their fathers hit their mothers.That is the behavior that they LEARNED!) The Nazi, Roehm, was abused as a 14 year old boy and he went on to induct numerous German boys into his perverse homosexual lifestyle and they ended up killing and torturing thousands of people. Are you saying that these boys who had genes from heterosexual parents just *happened* to turn out gay--not because of all the homosexual molestations but because they had a "gay gene"...that is utter stupidity.

[gcruse]

boys who had genes from heterosexual parents just *happened* to turn out gay--not because of all the homosexual molestations but because they had a "gay gene"...that is utter stupidity.

So heterosexuals cannot produce a homosexual child
without an outside agent teaching the child to be homosexual?
I don't believe that.  There is much more in the way of nature
than nurture.

[First Amendment]

People love to say that "lots" of heterosexuals also practice the same sick stuff, but I have yet to see a reasonable study that says so.

>>>I suspect that is because you frequent sources which tell you what you want to hear<<<

I have no doubt that there are many heterosexuals who also have strange, depraved and vicious sexual practices. In fact, the argument could be made that "gay liberation" has defined deviancy down, so people feel freer to indulge in outward experimentation, whereas previously they were more secretive or lived in fantasy. In fact, this kind of underscores my position that homosexuality should go back into the closet!

Additionally, the percentage of how many heterosexuals engage in that kind of stuff (and especially the scat and urine stuff, as well as anal sex) compared to homosexuals can't be comparable.

[GovernmentShrinker]

It depends where the samples came from. Kinsey also used large numbers of samples in his studies, which showed a hug e percentage of men involved in homosexual sex at some point during their lives, and an improbably high percentage predominantly homosexula throughout their lives. But a cursory inspection of where he got his "samples" shows that they were hardly random (most were psychiatric patients), and therefore his statistical results can hardly be taken seriously. Researchers with an anti-gay agenda often use simlarly unrepresentative samples, and then claim to have uncovered "facts".

[GovernmentShrinker]

I think you might be very surprised at the results if you typed "anal sex" into Google. Try it if you dare :)