Slavery apology-seekers need to look beyond Bush

sunspot ^ | 07/12/03 | Gregory Kane

[Pikamax]

Originally published Jul 12, 2003

Gregory Kane --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AS PRESIDENT Bush winds up his five-nation tour of Africa, perhaps it's time to revisit that annoying question of whether he should have apologized for slavery. The president started off his tour in Senegal, where he visited the slave castle on Goree Island. Several newscasts quoted Bush when he called slavery a "sin," but added that he didn't issue a blanket apology for slavery.

That apology has been a demand of some African-Americans for the past several years. Should Bush have apologized?

[First Amendment]

(I believe you can post the whole article here....)

But why should Bush apologize for slavery? He was born one hundred years after it was abolished. He never had slaves.

If he should apologize symbolically since the country he is president of used to allow slavery, then the governments of the African countries that allowed it should also apologize.

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[Trace21230]

But, since Bush is a [insert RINO/socialist/communist here], I'm sure it's only a matter of time before he sells out on this too. /sarcasm

Trace

[First Amendment]

I don't trust you. Are you trying to drum up hatred towards Bush???? Since you rabidly promote homsexuality whenever you get a chance, and your infopage sounds fake and smarmy, I just somehow don't trust you and your motives. I wonder where else you post things critical of Bush and traditional morality?

[Trace21230]

Read my post and pay particular attention to the /sarcasm at the end of it.

As far as your claim that I "rabidly promote homosexuality," that is quite simply a lie. And your opinion of my homepage--that it's "fake and smarmy" is juvenile, irrelevant, and meaningless.

I don't trust you either, and I guarantee you will find no greater Bush-fan than me.

Trace

[First Amendment]

Placing "sarcasm" didn't impress me. I've seen your rabid support of sodomy here on FR, and haven't I seen your name on Capital Hill Blue lately in your true persona? There was a link to CHB on a thread about the Doug Thompson fiasco.
As far as not trusting you, I don't trust that you are in any way a conservative, and that you may be here to disrupt the conservative agenda, while posing as what you are not.
You can't possibly say the same for me.

[jammer]

Be sarcastic, but he probably will before it's over.

[Blue Leader]

Yes, President George W. Bush should apologize for slavery and should apologize on the behalf of all white people who,in any way, profited from slavery. In fact, he should apologize for all white people, regardless. It would probably be appropriate for all of us to do that individually as well.

I think an appropriate time for us to do that, and to show our genuine remorse for it, is immediately following the declaration by blacks, arabs and other races and nationalities that they are genuinely ashamed and remorseful for selling their fellows and brethren into slavery for fun and profit.

Perhaps a further declaration of intent to cease selling their own people into slavery would be appropriate at this time.

[Sonny M]

Yes, President George W. Bush should apologize for slavery and should apologize on the behalf of all white people who,in any way, profited from slavery. In fact, he should apologize for all white people, regardless. It would probably be appropriate for all of us to do that individually as well.

I happen to be Indian, but I'll do this. I am sorry that people I do not know, did things to people I never knew and that people who are now dead and who I am not related to did bad things and on behalf of those people I say sorry to the victims who I also do not know and who are also dead.

Since I am on a roll here, I also want to say on behalf of some of the tribes in africa, I am sorry for what some of the other tribes in africa have done to you over a hundred years ago, on the same note, I also want to appologise to the chinese on behalf of the japanese for things that happened to them, and I also want to appologise to the people in america who may have been victimized during the revolutionary war by other americans. Am I missing anyone?

Maybe Bush should also be forced to appologise to the african americans here on behalf of africans there for being sold by those africans to europeans.

[hemogoblin]

About 500,000 dead and hundreds of thousands more maimed, mostly white, in the American Civil War was the United States' penance for slavery, IMHO.

The debt has been paid in blood, in full.

[Sci Fi Guy]

Didn't Clinton already do that? I seem to remember he went all over africa apologizing for everything except his own actions.

[Arpege92]

Has anyone here on Free Republic ever owned a slave? Has anyone here ever worked a slave with no pay? Has anyone here ever hung a slave? Has anyone here ever impregnated a slave? Has anyone here bought or sold a slave?

If anyone here on Free Republic answeres any of these questions with a yes, you are required to apologize for the rest of your lives!

[okie01]

"Am I missing anyone?"

The Mongols should apologize to the Russians forthwith. And to all other peoples who were once enslaved.

After all, it was the Mongols -- Genghis Khan, Taras Bulba, et al -- who not only enslaved the Russians, but gave the Slavs their ethnic identity. And, thus, the word that describes the condition...

[Trace21230]

I've seen your rabid support of sodomy here on FR, and haven't I seen your name on Capital Hill Blue lately in your true persona?

I have never "rabidly" expressed support for anything except the right for free Americans to live their lives as they please in peace. You don't like it? Tough, this is America, a free republic.

No, I am not on Capital Hill Blue, you are delusional.

As far as not trusting you, I don't trust that you are in any way a conservative, and that you may be here to disrupt the conservative agenda, while posing as what you are not.

As far as the "conservative agenda" goes, I am totally compatible with what a real conservative is all about. Live your live free from government interference. Period. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Your idea of "conservative" is obviously different. It doesn't make me any less of a conservative simply because I don't subscribe to your bedroom police/nanny state views.

Perhaps if you actually explored my beliefs on a spectrum of issues, you would find that we agree on many issues. Unfortunately, you have decided to engage in wild-eyed accusations and name-calling.

It's not surprising, but it is boring. People like you are a dime a dozen. Unless I buy into your worldview 100% hook, line and sinker, I am somehow "trying to disrupt the conservative agenda." Well, PRAM, I don't buy your simplistic worldview, and I will match my conservative credentials up against yours any day of the week. For instance, I gave 7 years of my life to this country. I've earned the right to my opinion, have you?

Trace

[First Amendment]

Oh, you're a liberaltarian.

[First Amendment]

And tried to fixup your info so it looks more realistic.

[Trace21230]

Oh, you're a liberaltarian.

Do "liberaltarians" support U.S. ME foreign policy?

Are "liberaltarians" 100% pro-life?

Just two issues where I disagree with libertarians. Plus, I don't agree with throwing away my vote on a candidate who can't win.

Yes, there are issues where I am more liberal than people like you. But if you want to change my mind, the way to do it is through being civil, presenting facts and logical arguments, and generally being reasonable.

One of the good things about being a conservative and being a Republican is that we have a wide variety of viewpoints and competing ideas. If you don't like it, then this isn't your party. That party already exists, and it's called the democratic party.

Trace

[Sonny M]

The Mongols should apologize to the Russians forthwith. And to all other peoples who were once enslaved.

Okay, on behalf of the mongolian peoples, I apologise to the russians, in fact, I'm going to type a letter to George W. Bush himself and ask him to apologise to the russians for what the mongolians did.

[okie01]

Don't forget an apology to the Jews, on behalf of the Pharaohs. They're unable to speak for themselves, being entombed all these millenia, y'know.

If I can think of any more, I'll get back to you.