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Report: CIA Source on Niger Nuke Flap is a Bush-Hater (Wilson)
NewsMax.com ^ | 7/13/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 07/13/2003 9:45:50 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: No Truce With Kings
"Actually, Wilson has plenty of choices — but no basis for his slanderous allegation. A little background: Mr. Wilson was sent to Niger by the CIA to verify a U.S. intelligence report about the sale of yellowcake — because Vice President Dick Cheney requested it, because Cheney had doubts about the validity of the intelligence report.
I guess you are misreading this, thinking it says Cheney requested Wilson. There is another way of reading it though- that Cheney requested verification (not specifying who). Which reading is correct? For this, we can look to the statement by Tenet:
In an effort to inquire about certain reports involving Niger, CIA's counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, asked an individual with ties to the region to make a visit to see what he could learn. He reported back to us that one of the former Nigerian officials he met stated that he was unaware of any contract being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of uranium during his tenure in office. The same former official also said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him and insisted that the former official meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Iraq and Niger. The former official interpreted the overture as an attempt to discuss uranium sales. The former officials also offered details regarding Niger's processes for monitoring and transporting uranium that suggested it would be very unlikely that material could be illicitly diverted. There was no mention in the report of forged documents or any suggestion of the existence of documents at all.

Because this report, in our view, did not resolve whether Iraq was or was not seeking uranium from abroad, it was given a normal and wide distribution, but we did not brief it to the president, vice president or other senior administration officials.

As for 'raging', I am quite calm, and pretty amused by the whole thing. I like watching when the Democrats get themselves into an irrational frenzy. It almost always backfires, and it will this time.

And Wilson was not qualified to do anything, except maybe arrange for a Clinton tour of the area.

81 posted on 07/13/2003 3:14:31 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you.)
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To: No Truce With Kings; William McKinley
Thanks, and understood. :)

Just stoopid me, hating to see two very bright guys get into a dog fight. Hope I don't get bit too bad.

Bottom line is that someone in the CIA is a bigtime culprit, if I read the green tea leaves right.
82 posted on 07/13/2003 3:19:04 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (You guys ROCK!)
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To: MonroeDNA
My tone was the problem. I sent a freepmail apology.
83 posted on 07/13/2003 3:20:40 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you.)
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To: William McKinley
Correct me if I am wrong, but to you, does this sound like somebody approached Cheney with an idea, and he signed off on it, not knowing it was going to be some axe-grinder?

Hence the dismissal of the report?

I am way over my head here...excuse me while I duck and go away.
84 posted on 07/13/2003 3:21:42 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (You guys ROCK!)
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To: No Truce With Kings; William McKinley
You guys rock!
85 posted on 07/13/2003 3:24:10 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (You guys ROCK!)
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To: MonroeDNA
I don't know. That phrasing from May's article comes across to me like he was trying to do a brief 'how we got here' summary; to me this indicates that he considered the important things to be what follows, not of what he merely was giving a Cliff Notes version. It would be nice if we could find out on what he was basing that summation, and any other details about the genesis of the trip that he could provide.
86 posted on 07/13/2003 3:24:33 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you.)
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To: arasina
Like a mail-out voter registration obtained by calling your local Registrar of Voters that is mailed out to you?

You simply "SELF SWEAR & CERTIFY" that you are a legal USA Citizen and then merely mail it back to the Registrar of Voters.

They then register your name on the voter lists and mail you back a REGISTERED US CITIZEN/VOTER ID CARD.

You can the (again) phone or write to that same local Registrar of Voters to have an ABSENTEE BALLOT mailed out to you (about 30 days prior to election. check with your local Registrar or Secretary of State)

You then mark your ABSENTEE MAIL-IN BALLOT, sign it, and mail it in.

(Illegal Aliens/Dems.etc, can use this [and do!] to vote illegally if not a US Citizen and/or VOTE MULTIPLE TIMES!)

Did Mr. Wilson "REGISTER & MAIL IT IN"?

What written and signed documentation does Wilson have to prove the CIA, a CIA officer, CIA Director Tenant, or VP Dick Cheney actually officially (or otherwise!) authorized him to act and investigate this Niger BS?

Isn't CIA biz TOP SECRET?

I still am under DOD restrictions concerning revealing and confidential information.

Why is Wilson any different?

This is a NATIONAL SECURITY MATTER isn't it!

Ex-State Dept, Ex-Military Officers on TV, Ex-Diplomats, Ex-Presidents, Ex-Secretary of States; what's the durned deal here?

I consider this TREASON!
87 posted on 07/13/2003 3:24:50 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: William McKinley
"As for 'raging', I am quite calm, and pretty amused by the whole thing. I like watching when the Democrats get themselves into an irrational frenzy. It almost always backfires, and it will this time."

You are a better man than me, then. I am really hacked at the way a fraud (Wilkinson) and a fool (Wilson) have been able to bait Republicans into a big "search for the guilty" over a non-issue and a set of their lies. They are playing a game of "Let's You and Him Fight," and the conservatives are falling for it. And yeah, I am mad about that.
88 posted on 07/13/2003 3:34:42 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: MJY1288
Did he "PHONE IT IN" to the CIA?

To who?

Phone records?

Witnesses?

Date and time?

Have a CIA "FACE-TO-FACE DEBRIEFING"?

Tape recordings?

Witnesses?

Date and time?

What proof does he have that he did so?

Nothing in writing......

No written report......

No credibility!
89 posted on 07/13/2003 3:40:39 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: MonroeDNA
"Bottom line is that someone in the CIA is a bigtime culprit, if I read the green tea leaves right."

I don't think so. The story surfaced when a purported "CIA briefer" claimed on the record that "Bush knew the CIA had doubts about the uranium story" at the briefings leading up to the SOTU address. This is the guy that William McKinley uncovered as a fraud. Then Wilson chimes in with his take that his incompetent bungling on a mission to corraborate the yellowcake story was proof of the phony CIA briefer's claims. As near as I can tell -- and if someone could correct me if I am wrong, please do -- the CIA is blameless in this. They did their job in a credible manner.

This is the perfect screw, because an innocent party (in this case the CIA) is left holding the bag when the game is over. Not that the CIA has not done things that should be criticized in the past. Rather, I cannot see what the CIA or Tenet did in this case that is worth condemnation.
90 posted on 07/13/2003 3:42:39 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: No Truce With Kings
Don't forget Theilmann. There is also a Ray McGovern, but the rabble rousers on the left have been unable to foist him on the media (amazingly enough). May's article may have played a part in McGovern gettng no traction, since he is so obviously a leftist agitator.
91 posted on 07/13/2003 3:45:58 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you.)
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To: DPB101
At least we were able to get Natan Sharansky for Hana and Karl.
92 posted on 07/13/2003 4:15:27 PM PDT by stevejackson
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I thought a hardcore Bush-hater like yourself would be more depressed by this news :D
93 posted on 07/13/2003 4:18:33 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Miss Marple
Could that Clintonista be Tenet?
94 posted on 07/13/2003 4:26:47 PM PDT by JustPiper (Far-right screecher and Proud of it !!!)
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To: Miss Marple
Didn't Clinton have investments over there? Was Wilson involved in that?
95 posted on 07/13/2003 4:43:22 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I have no idea if Clinton had investments there or not. However, I am certain Marc Rich did.
96 posted on 07/13/2003 5:02:08 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Sparta
Zap!
97 posted on 07/13/2003 5:05:27 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Sparta
Yes, I am simply weeping in my beer.
98 posted on 07/13/2003 5:05:56 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: Miss Marple
There also seems to be a bit of timing by the "VAST LEFT WING WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY".

The Brits are still standing by their intel. The lying liberal communists in this nation don't seemed to be a bit worried that they will loose any credibility for taking Saddam's side.

They the lying liberals have not yet said that Saddam was not seeking nuclear materials, form anyone and we know that Clinton gave N. Korea his and Russia sold it to Iran.

Maybe we should start checking those two places to see where exactly Saddam was plotting to get his and who planted this fraud to give cover.
99 posted on 07/13/2003 5:18:31 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
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100 posted on 07/13/2003 5:19:33 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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