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Report: CIA Source on Niger Nuke Flap is a Bush-Hater (Wilson)
NewsMax.com ^ | 7/13/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 07/13/2003 9:45:50 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: No Truce With Kings
" the CIA is blameless in this. They did their job in a credible manner."

I respectfully disagree. I hope the CIA has better operatives in place to investigate allegations on North Korea's nukes, Iran's nukes, etc-than a political appointee with zero expertise in the area.He took everyone's denials at face value,like a true defense lawyer.Wilson acted like Saddam's Johnny Cochran-"The documents don't fit,you must acquit."All Wilson did was chat up his buds in Africa-he brought no team to investigate,he never saw any documents,I bet he thinks yellowcake is a type of Duncan Hines cake mix.Wilson is a friend of Bill Clinton and a former Gore staffer,with a track record of great fondness for Saddam and is an anti war leftist.The CIA should never have relied on just one person,clearly unqualified,to give the thumbs up or down on a nuclear program,run by a terrorist. If the CIA had sent Joseph Wilson to Afghanistan prior to 9/11,he probably would have reported back that he sipped mint tea with Osama and was assured that the Al Queda had no interest in airliners.
101 posted on 07/13/2003 5:59:12 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: zip
Zip: I have been screaming about the leftovers (notice that I didn't call them holdovers) in State and Justice Departments since Day One of W's administration. Now I guess I should add CIA to the short list. I honestly do not understand W/Ashcroft refusing to cleanse the leftists out of those Depts.
So, let's see if I've got this right. We are 30 months into the Bush 43 administration and we are still blaming things that go wrong on Clinton and his holdovers/leftovers? He has had 2 1/2 years to fire them, so when does this stuff become the president's responsibility? 4 years? 8?
And Ari Fleischer says that the president based the famous sentence on Yellow Cake and Niger, but we are supposed to buy that the sentence was just a vague reference to Africa in general?
And that Tenet is the one at fault and should be fired because he's a Clinton holdover/leftover even though the president has supported him at every turn? And Tenet fell on his sword for the president as a good soldier but Wilson and Hillary were actually behind it all, yanking the pres's strings?
Is this the set for Alice in Wonderland?
--Raoul
102 posted on 07/13/2003 7:37:18 PM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: Howlin
"This certainly puts a damper on your "Bush is either incompetent or a liar" theory, doesn't it?"

Gee. Why did she not reply? Maybe she and Valen are busy posting at DU.
103 posted on 07/14/2003 11:10:52 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Do you think 24 hours is long enough to wait for an answer? Should I lose all hope now?
104 posted on 07/14/2003 11:12:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Have you been holding your breath all this time?
105 posted on 07/14/2003 11:15:03 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: No Truce With Kings; MonroeDNA; JeanS; Dog
I had sent May an email to his work account asking him if he could be a bit more specific in what he was saying:
"A little background: Mr. Wilson was sent to Niger by the CIA to verify a U.S. intelligence report about the sale of yellowcake — because Vice President Dick Cheney requested it, because Cheney had doubts about the validity of the intelligence report."

1) In this phrase, when you say "Cheney requested it" did you mean that the Vice President had requested the verification, requested the trip, or requested Mr. Wilson to make the trip?

2) We have seen other reports that the Vice President's office made inquiries about the report, but your article is the only one we have seen that says that Mr. Cheney had doubts about the report. From where does this information come (if it is just that you have a source who told you, that is fine, but obviously the more information you could give the better).

Mr. May never answered, but he was just on Fox & Friends right now, and he addressed both points, either by coincidence or because of the feedback he had gotten over his article "Scandal".

He pretty much echoed what I have been saying- there is the potential for a real scandal here due to Wilson being sent. I'll try to paraphrase what he said: 'Think of it this way. How often when a request comes from the highest levels of the government, such as the Vice President's office? When it does, does the CIA choose some of its most experienced officers? No. It instead decides to send a single guy, with no experience, and a record of being very anti-war and very much an adversary of the President. How did this happen, and who made it happen?' This indicates that Cheney did not ask for Wilson, and hints that May thinks it was a bit of a put-up job.

For the second, he stated that the assertion did not have any substantiation for it in the report Cheney had seen; it was just a statement that Iraq had tried. He wanted to know the background.

FWIW

106 posted on 07/17/2003 5:32:57 AM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: Grampa Dave
Another dirtbag alert thread reminder...
107 posted on 09/30/2003 3:47:07 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Shenandoah and Blue Ridge will re-emerge as the investment of the 21st Century....)
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To: No Truce With Kings
Dick Cheney did NOT tap this kook.
108 posted on 09/30/2003 5:08:19 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: kattracks; PhiKapMom; Howlin; Miss Marple
Check this out; Wilson's been a keynote speaker for EPIC, so this might be interesting :

APRIL 2003 early : (EPIC aka "EDUCATION FOR PEACE IN IRAQ CENTER: LAUNCHES PETITION DRIVE TO TRY TO KEEP FUNDING FOR IRAQ HUMANITARIAN AID AND RECONSTRUCTION OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE US MILITARY - AND INTO THE HANDS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT ) Another group, the Education for Peace in Iraq Center (EPIC) this week launched the latest of numerous online petition drives, calling on their supporters to flood Congress with e-mails calling on legislators keep funding for Iraq humanitarian and reconstruction out of the hands the US military. "The State Department, in partnership with the UN and our allies, is the appropriate authority for US funds related to post-war Iraq," EPIC said in an action email sent to supporters.

Also, see this:

JUNE 14, 2003 : (WASHINGTON, DC : EPIC aka "EDUCATION FOR PEACE IN IRAQ CENTER'S" IRAQ FORUM EVENING KEYNOTE LECTURES INCLUDE "A STATE OF THE MOVEMENT ADDRESS" BY RAY MCGOVERN OF THE GROUP "VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY" & FORMER AMBASSADOR WILSON)

(* My note : Do you think Ray McGovern and his "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity" can fake being "administration officials" to help shop Mr. Wilson's tales around the Beltway? Ray works out of Fairfax, VA. )

109 posted on 09/30/2003 5:32:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Cindy
FYI, the source for the first one is AFP and the source for the second one is EPIC's own web site.
110 posted on 09/30/2003 5:36:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: No Truce With Kings
You might want to go through some of the other post on this topic that were posted today. Somewhere on freerepublic today on an other thread, this was discussed. Cheney supposedly had no knowledge of who the CIA had sent, he had no idea of who Wilson was until this all broke. He was also not presented with Wilsons findings, which come to find out were not even worth putting in writting.
111 posted on 09/30/2003 6:21:30 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: No Truce With Kings
and if someone could correct me if I am wrong, please do -- the CIA is blameless in this. They did their job in a credible manner.

Sending a partisan political hack with no intelegence or investigative backgroud to find out if intel is correct does not leave the CIA blameless but puts their motives very much under question. Who even though that this was a good idea needs investigation.

112 posted on 09/30/2003 6:28:22 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
"You might want to go through some of the other post on this topic that were posted today."

I am simply stunned by your brilliance and perceptiveness. How *could* I have been so foolish? So ignorant? Especially since most of the information to which you are referring came out, oh . . . two weeks *after* I made the post to which you refer.

The *only* way that I could have gone through some of the other posts on this topic that were posted today before posting the three-month-old comment that jerked someone's chain today would be if I could get into a Wes Clark autographed time machine.

If you will kindly provide one I will go back in time and correct the misconceptions I had back then. (And I'll never, *ever* do it again.)
113 posted on 09/30/2003 8:02:07 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the information!
114 posted on 09/30/2003 8:10:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Miss Marple
Why are there so many Clinton people working in a Republican administration? Is that part of the problem?
115 posted on 09/30/2003 8:15:58 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: kattracks
bump
116 posted on 09/30/2003 9:10:49 PM PDT by GOPJ
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