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Right to carry would disprove horror stories
Kansas City Star Newspaper ^ | July 12, 2003 | By JOHN R. LOTT JR.

Posted on 07/12/2003 5:36:19 AM PDT by jmq

Posted on Sat, Jul. 12, 2003

Right to carry would disprove horror stories By JOHN R. LOTT JR. Special to The Star

Gov. Bob Holden finally vetoed the right-to-carry legislation last week, expressing fears about the risks the law poses for police and children.

With more than 70 percent of the Missouri House and Senate already voting for the bill, the expected veto override battle appears to be coming down to a single vote in the Senate.

Gun control advocates such as Holden are right to fear the right-to-carry bill's passage, but not for the reason that most people think. Despite panicked claims that innocent people will be killed and there will be shootouts in the streets, here is a prediction: A year after enactment Missouri's newspapers will report that all the horror stories about letting citizens carry concealed handguns were wrong. The real loser will be gun control advocates' credibility.

My prediction does not really involve going out on a limb. The bill allows trained, law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns for their protection, and Missouri's law will be the most restrictive right-to-carry law in the nation.

One needs only to look at the other 32 states with right-to-carry laws where we have had enough time to see what happens. A year after the law goes into effect, newspaper articles in state after state announce that the supposed fears never materialized. It is particularly hard to see why these worries are taken seriously in Missouri, four of whose neighbors have right-to-carry laws.

Michigan, the most recent state to have a right-to-carry law in effect for at least a year, adopted it in 2001. Last year newspapers such as the Detroit News regularly reported that: "Such self-defense has not yet resulted in any kind of wave of new gun violence among those with fresh...permits, several law enforcement officials throughout Metro Detroit agreed."

And consider the two largest states with right-to-carry laws, Florida and Texas. In the 15 years after Florida's concealed-carry law took effect in October 1987, about 800,000 licenses were issued. Only 143 of these (two-hundredths of 1 percent) were revoked because of firearms-related violations.

But even this statistic overstates the risks, as almost all of these cases apparently resulted from people accidentally carrying a gun into a restricted area, such as an airport. No one claims that these unintentional violations posed any harm. In general, permit-holders were model law-abiders. Even off-duty police officers in Florida were convicted of violent crimes at a higher rate than permit-holders.

The experience in Texas was similar. From 1996 through 1999, the first four years that Texas' concealed-handgun law was in effect, 215,000 people were licensed. Permit holders turned out to be law-abiding, with licensees convicted of a crime only 6 percent as often as other adult Texans.

Data for other states are also available and paint a similar picture. Thus, it is not surprising that no state with a right-to-carry law has repealed it.

One particular fear raised by Holden is that right-to-carry laws would actually make police officers' jobs more dangerous by making it more likely that they would be shot. Yet research has shown that the laws make police safer. Professor David Mustard at the University of Georgia found that right-to-carry laws reduced the rate that officers were killed by about 2 percent per year for each year that the laws were in effect. Several studies find that as law-abiding citizens are allowed to defend themselves, criminals are much less likely to carry guns. Fewer criminals carrying guns makes the jobs of police less dangerous.

While Missouri's police organizations are generally neutral, national surveys show the police support concealed handgun laws by a 3-1 majority. Many former strong opponents to right-to-carry laws across the country have changed their positions after the laws have been in effect for a couple of years.

Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association, provides a typical response: "I lobbied against the law in 1993 and 1995 because I thought it would lead to wholesale armed conflict. That hasn't happened....I think it's worked out well, and that says good things about the citizens who have permits. I'm a convert."

When he vetoed the right-to-carry bill, Holden also claimed that right-to-carry laws would increase accidental shootings, but there is not one academic study that finds that to be true. For violent crime, refereed academic studies range from showing that right-to-carry laws at worst have little or no benefit to most research finding large reductions that increase as more permits are issued.

A year after the right-to-carry law is enacted, Missourians will wonder what all the fuss was about. Those declaring that Missourians' safety is endangered will lose credibility once people see that it is criminals and not law-abiding citizens who have the most to fear from Missourians' being able to defend themselves.

John R. Lott Jr. is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of the just-released book The Bias Against Guns.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; ccwgunbang; concealcarry; guncontrol; guns; righttocarry
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1 posted on 07/12/2003 5:36:20 AM PDT by jmq
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2 posted on 07/12/2003 5:38:14 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: bang
Bttt

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3 posted on 07/12/2003 5:38:44 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: jmq
bump for later reading
4 posted on 07/12/2003 5:46:19 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: jmq
The GOP led legislature is set to override Boob Holden's veto on this matter.

And worse for the rats, Boob's "base" is in for a bad time ahead when the citizens of Missouri begin carrying weapons legally - and using them - to clean the streets of criminals.




5 posted on 07/12/2003 5:49:27 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: *bang_list
John Lott BANG!
6 posted on 07/12/2003 5:51:30 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: *bang_list
BTTT
7 posted on 07/12/2003 5:59:47 AM PDT by jcparks (I kill mosquitoes, leaches, ticks, and all other blood sucking parasites)
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To: jmq; *bang_list; Joe Brower; rface
I can't believe the Red Star actually printed this! I guess they knew there would be more heat if it was revealed that they refused to print it. Expect Louis DooGood, Laura Scott and the rest of the hysterical weenies at the Star editorial staff to go ballistic.

One Term Bob may have his veto thrown back in his face on this issue. Holden never travels anywhere except in state owned planes, with numerous bodyguards, but he won't let the working men and women who travel in dangerous neighborhoods at all hours of the day and night defend themselves. This is eliteism at its worst.

Thanks for posting this, jmq.

8 posted on 07/12/2003 6:01:09 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: mgc1122
The nutcase that shot those folks at Modine fired 17 rounds at the plant but only had a ten round clip. Think about that for a minute.......
9 posted on 07/12/2003 6:02:57 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: TroutStalker
He is a typical Liberal. Doesn't really care about saftey concerns for the citizens of his state, only his political agenda.
10 posted on 07/12/2003 6:04:55 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
Well he's not doing his political agenda much good if he gets reversed on this. And he got beatup on the budget. I don't think Holden is going to survive a primary election challenge by Claire McCaskel.

BTW, did you see that Kansas City Rep. Karen McCarthy's chief of staff resigned? The sixth resignation since her falling down drunk episode where she threw her cell phone at the chief of staff.

11 posted on 07/12/2003 6:15:57 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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Bump.
12 posted on 07/12/2003 6:24:13 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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I had not heard about the drunk thing or the resignation, fill me in if you can.
13 posted on 07/12/2003 6:42:03 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: TroutStalker
As far as his political agenda goes, he has to know that concealed carry will reduce crime. The big problem is that it flies in the face of the DNC outlook on gun ownership and so once again a liberal does the wrong thing for political reasons. Kind of like selling one's soul to the devil for gold.
14 posted on 07/12/2003 6:45:39 AM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
U.S. Rep. Karen McCarthy [Kansas City] to seek treatment for a drinking problem ^

Press (KCStar) gives McCarthy pass on missing votes ^

Rep. McCarthy’s staff morale hits bottom ^

Rep. Karen McCarthy's chief of staff resigns  ^

15 posted on 07/12/2003 7:07:50 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: jmq
.....the expected veto override battle appears to be coming down to a single vote in the Senate.

Too much to hope for....although I would like them to surprise me. I am thinking of a S&W SW99 .40 no matter what happens with the override.

16 posted on 07/12/2003 7:13:41 AM PDT by rface ( Ashland, Missouri - Missouri's Democrat Gov. Holden is a POS)
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Now that S&W is cleaned up and American-owned, why not ?
17 posted on 07/12/2003 7:24:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BOBWADE
He is a typical Liberal. Doesn't really care about saftey concerns for the citizens of his state, only his political agenda.

He should have asked Ann 'Ma' Richards (D) of Texas what happens to governors who veto conceal carry bills...

18 posted on 07/12/2003 7:28:55 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: jmq
Even off-duty police officers in Florida were convicted of violent crimes at a higher rate than permit-holders.

That's an interesting factoid.

19 posted on 07/12/2003 7:48:50 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: TroutStalker
Holden never travels anywhere except in state owned planes, with numerous bodyguards, but he won't let the working men and women who travel in dangerous neighborhoods at all hours of the day and night defend themselves.

You nailed it!!


Eaker

20 posted on 07/12/2003 7:52:15 AM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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