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(Pat) Robertson defends Liberian president; blames US State Department
MSNBC / Washington Post ^ | 7.10.03 | Alan Cooperman

Posted on 07/10/2003 8:47:18 AM PDT by mhking

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To: Iscool
Seems the people that elected Taylor, over 70% of the population...

You can't be serious. You're actually defending a marxist who escaped from a Massachusetts prison in 1985 after being charged with the theft of $900,000, who is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Africans, whose army consisted of kids on drugs, and whose despotism and bottomless corruption are documented for anyone with the energy to "research" it properly. And to top it all off you are under the delusion that he was popularly elected in a fair election!

Does anybody in this country know how to think anymore?

41 posted on 07/10/2003 10:38:08 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Norse
Bush realizes that Charles Taylor is a horrible leader and needs to go.

So.
So is Castro.
So is Mobutu.
So is Kim Jong Il.
So are scores of other tyrants and despots.
Where in the US Constitution does it say that the US has a duty or even jurisdiction to remove every horrible leader in the world?

42 posted on 07/10/2003 10:41:49 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
CORRECTION:

So is was Mobutu.

43 posted on 07/10/2003 10:44:57 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: mhking
Robertson has defended Taylor as a fellow Baptist and Liberia’s “freely elected” leader. The “horrible bloodbath” taking place in Liberia, he has repeatedly said, is the fault of the State Department.

Some Liberian friends of mine, some of whom have known Taylor since high school, think that he is the essence of evil. People voted for him because they thought the best way to end the civil war and its associated atrocities was to give Taylor what he wanted. Robertson should certainly should know what has been happening in Liberia. This just shows how totally corrupt Robertson has become.

BTW, when I have seen Robertson recently he didn't look so healthy. Maybe he is losing it.

44 posted on 07/10/2003 10:51:09 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Iscool
(Seems the people that elected Taylor, over 70% of the population, would like him to stay...But apparently you, the Wash Post, Reuters and the United Nations, and oh yes, George B, would like to remove him...And replace him with WHO??? Which muslim are you supporting???)
Hard to understand. Let's just go with the OIL theory. As for GW, he's more interested in Muslims & homosexuals & illegals than christians. See he's a man for all of the people.
45 posted on 07/10/2003 11:02:11 AM PDT by Digger
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To: eyespysomething
Here: Pat Robertson's al-Qaeda Ties

Huh? Pretty provocative headline. Nothing but a bit of ad hominem attacking on the page it links to. No "evidence" of any connection. What benefit is there in linking to that page?

46 posted on 07/10/2003 11:16:58 AM PDT by Theo
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To: beckett
I am not knee-jerking. Don't presume to know what I know about Robertson. I have watched him and followed his various scams for many, many years. He is a GREEDY BS Artist and a disgrace to the faith he pretends to profess.

Am I disqualified to have an informed opinion about the man because I earned two master's degrees at the university he founded, and worked for 2 years at CBN? There's a lot people don't know about the man. Do you know, for example, what his salary is from The 700 Club? Do you know how much money he gave away from the sale of The Family Channel, and who he gave the money away to? I do. The answers: $0. $200 million. And Regent University and WorldReach, an evangelical missions organization. He's done some good in his life, and it's good to balance your opinion of the man with some of the facts about his character.

That said, there are some things he's said and done that I definitely don't like. But I've got a balanced and informed opinion on the man. All indications are that your opinion is one-sided and not well-informed.

47 posted on 07/10/2003 11:23:52 AM PDT by Theo
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To: Shermy
Ultimately, it was found out that Pat had been using CBN money and equipment to aid his diamond mining operation in Zaire

I don't mean to come across as totally defending Pat, or saying that he's without sin, but that statement is just not true. An airplane owned by a CBN-affiliated ministry was in Africa doing medical missions work, and Pat contracted to have it transport some of the diamonds. The plane was there already, and he paid to have some diamonds transported on it. Nothing illegal. Nothing unethical. But now you have the facts, not streamed to you by media people who hate Christians, especially influential, sinful ones like Pat.

48 posted on 07/10/2003 11:28:12 AM PDT by Theo
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To: beckett
Okay, enough of the back-and-forth arguing. Here's a serious question:

I'm reading that Taylor is a Marxist. Elsewhere I read that he's a Baptist. Which is he? One truly can't be both. I wonder if the answer to that question might provide insight into why Pat sees him one way and others see him other ways.... Anyone know?

49 posted on 07/10/2003 11:30:23 AM PDT by Theo
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To: wideminded
BTW, when I have seen Robertson recently he didn't look so healthy. Maybe he is losing it

Old people are all senile, right? There's nothing worse than an old person. Ah, the wisdom of youth.

50 posted on 07/10/2003 11:32:28 AM PDT by Theo
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To: Theo
I'm reading that Taylor is a Marxist. Elsewhere I read that he's a Baptist. Which is he? One truly can't be both. I wonder if the answer to that question might provide insight into why Pat sees him one way and others see him other ways.... Anyone know?

There is no mystery. Taylor is an opportunist. He was a marxist when it suited his ambitions in the 70s and 80s, and he is a Baptist now for the same reason.

This is not rocket science people. This guy's utter corruption and self-glorification is well documented.

It should also be apparent to any half-way intelligent observer that Pat Robertson's defense of Taylor springs from the same brand of opportunism.

Birds of a feather, baby.

51 posted on 07/10/2003 11:42:38 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Theo
BTW, when I have seen Robertson recently he didn't look so healthy. Maybe he is losing it

Old people are all senile, right? There's nothing worse than an old person. Ah, the wisdom of youth.

You are jumping to a lot of conclusions in accusing me of ageism.

1. I'm pretty close to getting my own letter from the AARP.

2. I'm quite familiar with the fact that not everyone who is old has dementia. I have had friends in their 80's with whom I have had many interesting and deep conversations, but I also have had to become power-of-attorney for a woman in her 70's with rapidly progressing Alzheimer's and I had a close relative with multi-infarct dementia.

3. I had remarked to several people that Pat Robertson looks like he has some health problems. To me it looked like the recent more rapid change in his appearance was due to more than normal aging. If he has some sort of circulatory problem for instance, this could affect his brain. He recently talked about resigning.

4. To support someone like Taylor who has caused so much harm to his country and to neighboring countries points to manifest corruption on Robertson's part. The failure to understand how his defense of Taylor would be perceived makes me think that maybe he isn't thinking too clearly.

52 posted on 07/10/2003 12:18:07 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded
Fair enough. I do appreciate your taking the time to help me understand what you were saying. My dad is a geriatric physician (pretty much retired), and so "ageism" is a bit close to home. "Losing it" is kind of an awkward/connotated term, but I overreacted.
53 posted on 07/10/2003 12:29:38 PM PDT by Theo
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To: warchild9
You need to find out about the Bush family and their antecedants' China connections/business interests, many and intensity of which can now only be found in out of print books.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002/02/19/usat-prescott-bush.htm

How much closer can you get than this?:
http://www.silkrc.com/JVYChina/bush_letter.htm

Lots of our other Republican friends do, too. I suppose that they have also "sold out".

You may not approve but in our day it's the thing to do. It is particularly the thing to do if you feel an obligation to evangelize the nation. In other words, Pat R has a more valid reason for it than the Bush family has/does have.

The Bell/Graham (as in Billy) family also has connections there for likely most of the same reasons.
54 posted on 07/10/2003 12:48:11 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: MineralMan
Could you mean Pat's Diamonds? After all it was Pat's Flying Hospital that smuggled them in.
55 posted on 07/10/2003 12:59:30 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
"Could you mean Pat's Diamonds? After all it was Pat's Flying Hospital that smuggled them in."

Yes. I apologized for my error a little further down the thread.
56 posted on 07/10/2003 1:03:17 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
sorry, so little time, to many post :)
57 posted on 07/10/2003 1:05:04 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Spirited
The Bush family are up to their hips in political filth, as our many of our other "leaders." Just because they're "all doing it" or "it's the thing to do" doesn't make it right. And, by the way, Pat Robertson has invested in PLA enterprises, which are strictly slave labor camps (guanxi). The man's a nutball AND a traitor.
58 posted on 07/10/2003 2:05:28 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: smith288
do you know how odd this sounds coming from a conservative website?

The line of reasoning which says despotism is to be accepted as long as it happens to someone else is a betrayal of America's founding priciples. Despotism is never "Okay."

Natural right trumps national sovereignty, and only individuals have natural rights. America has long been the champion of individual, natural rights. If Bush can effect a change of leadership in Liberia by telling Taylor to go--more power to him. An elected tyrant is still a tyrant, and a political process which results in dictatorship is broken. Sweep it away and try again.

I see no contridiction in conservatives cheering the passing of a democratically elected tyrant--if by "conservatives" once means the supporters of ordered liberty.

59 posted on 07/10/2003 2:09:09 PM PDT by TigerTale (From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
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To: ppaul
I agree with you about Taylor...I changed my mind. It isn't our damn business. But, i'm not in the know like Bush is.
60 posted on 07/10/2003 7:53:37 PM PDT by Norse
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