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Ms Shooter attended an ethics and sensitivity meeting
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Posted on 07/09/2003 6:46:16 AM PDT by WKB

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To: WKB
The Ethics/Sensitivity training is no big thing - just several "hypothetical" case studies (actually based on cases raised by employees to the ethics hotline) in which a situation is presented and employees in small groups discuss what course of action the parties involved should take. The cases involve such issues as appropriate use of company assets, honesty and integrity in cost reporting/charging, proper conduct regarding business courtesies, protection of sensitive data, harassment in the workplace, etc.

The core principles of Honesty, Integrity, Respect, Trust, Responsibility, and Citizenship are the focus of the training -- not political correctness. To suggest that something in the training session caused him to "snap" is ludicrous. I'm sure he brought a shotgun and semi-automatic rifle to work with him all the time and this time just snapped because of the ethics training. Yeah, right. The fact that he came to the plant armed for a murderous rampage shows that he had already decided he was going to commit this atrocity. It had absolutely nothing to do with any training he attended yesterday.
21 posted on 07/09/2003 7:49:39 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: sarasota
One has to wonder if these sessions just incite the already-inflamed nutballs into action.

Absolutely a valid thing to ponder.

MM

22 posted on 07/09/2003 7:58:02 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: boris
I sent an e-mail to my boss, formally refusing to take it. We shall see what transpires 

kAcknor Sez:

Let me suggest another course of action...

I spent 20 years in the USAF. During that time I must have attended at least 15 mandatory "Race Relations/Human Relations" classes. All were basically the same, with a black or female instructor, and all professed to teach that we were all equal whether black, red, female and so on. Further, the message that the Air Force would take action against anyone for showing discrimination toward these named groups. This is where I would have fun.

I would innocently raise my hand and ask about homosexuals, and why the AF thought it was OK to discriminate against them. Most instructors would stutter and stammer and evade and generally lose control of the entire class. Only one actually came out as said that the AF had deemed it OK to use discrimination in that case. Either way, I managed to have a bit of fun in a situation that I would have preferred not to be in. I also used the time to point out the hypocrisy to the other people taking the class.

Now, obviously this class is about gays, so you'll have to find another group that it's currently OK to openly discriminate against... Conservatives maybe. ;)

 

"bISovbejbe'DI' tImer" (When in doubt, surprise them.)

Have you checked the *bang_list today?

23 posted on 07/09/2003 8:07:15 AM PDT by kAcknor
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To: boris
My employer has a mandatory "diversity" class. The last class is sometime this month. I sent an e-mail to my boss, formally refusing to take it. We shall see what transpires.

You should have just called in sick on the day of the class.

24 posted on 07/09/2003 8:10:54 AM PDT by rllngrk33 (Being a liberal means never admitting you're wrong, even in the face of facts.)
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To: VRWCmember
I'm wondering about Sheriff Billy, and why he just won't come out and say what this loser was, along with decrying the mindset.

Interestingly, this thread generated more responses, much faster, than the scalding LA Times article I put up earlier which detailed that this loser had been to "threat assessment counseling", and had been known for gross racism at work (including bringing in a klukker dunce cap. I repeat, he brought a klukker dunce cap to work). Our line over on that one that there would probably be three threads up with 250 posts apiece had the guy been fired for his comments and racist actions at work.

25 posted on 07/09/2003 8:13:29 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: cubreporter
He didn't make Admiral! :-)
26 posted on 07/09/2003 8:15:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you're going to be pedantic, be quick about it!)
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To: sarasota
Like the t-shirt says:

"Don't annoy the crazy person!"

27 posted on 07/09/2003 8:37:07 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
the scalding LA Times article

Link please?

28 posted on 07/09/2003 8:51:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you're going to be pedantic, be quick about it!)
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To: VRWCmember
You may have attended a good sensitivity training class, but there are others that seem fixed on, if anything, provoking even more attention to differences. One perfectly nice friend of mine was forced to go to the company's "sensitivity seminar" and told me that she came out hating everyone, and wondering why we couldn't go back to the old days where people didn't talk about it, but just knew you were supposed to be mannerly to everybody.

In her group, they did "role-playing" that seemed designed to distress and humiliate, and she thought it was particularly aimed at white men. That is, they were always the bad guys, or were being shown how awful they really were deep down inside.
29 posted on 07/09/2003 8:58:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: Tax-chick
link
30 posted on 07/09/2003 9:03:49 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: livius
In this case, the white guy really was awful deep inside.
31 posted on 07/09/2003 9:06:09 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: VRWCmember
To suggest that something in the training session caused him to "snap" is ludicrous.

Excuse me, but you're full of it. If he went through the same type sensitivity/diversity mind control class I went through, it could very well have caused him to "snap", if he were unstable in the first place.

The one I went through was nothing but a week-long bitch-session, aimed at ME - because I am a white male. I was apparently the source of all the ills of society. I stood up and told all of them what for, and walked out.

I would never dream of shooting anyone, but this guy apparently didn't share my values.

32 posted on 07/09/2003 9:09:13 AM PDT by HeadOn (The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Thanks. First time I've used the "universal password." That was fun!
33 posted on 07/09/2003 9:15:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you're going to be pedantic, be quick about it!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Re: "The whole thing is based on a behavioral science model adopted from Marxist psychologists."

So is community oriented policing (COPS) used by most police departments who get DOJ grants, so is Total Quality Management (TQM) used by most "conservative" corporations, and so are open-format, experiential based schools. Welcome to a group therapy for normals: a sovietized Amerika that doesn't even know it is sovietized. And we wonder why we hear so-called conservatives on FR spouting collectivist central planning diatribe when it suits their social agenda. Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis. The whole diversity movement is the energy used to spin up the process of consensus management.

We've become a nation of compromisers and moral relativists on the easy installment plan, and so far not a shot has been fired to advance or defend against this plague. Maybe Billybob had the right inspiration but chose the wrong methods against the wrong perpetrators. In any event his behavior only serves to strengthen the marxist position and response.

34 posted on 07/09/2003 9:23:06 AM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yes, he really was! It was probably just a matter of time until he did something like this. Reports say that he didn't get along with anybody - they should have fired him long before this. But I suppose hindsight is wonderful.
35 posted on 07/09/2003 9:56:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: VRWCmember
What goes on in these group therapy sessions is quite subtle. As a former trainer for "high productivity team building" I never fully understood the rigid recipe I was supposed to follow until many years later.

The purpose of the group therapy techniques applied in most of these training regimens is to create tension to "unfreeze" people's attitudes. This is why a diverse group of people is necessary for the technique to be applied. This can be used ethically to help people with problems, or unethically to de-stabilize people's positional, rigid belief systems (eg. it is aimed at people with morals as much as those with obsessive behaviors. To a humanist, these are in fact often viewed as the same thing).

The entire method is based upon induced conflict to make people suggestive to whatever new behavior or thought can be applied through arriving at consensus. The process doesn't care what new level of positional movement is attained. All that is required is that people are required to selectively attend to opposing viewpoints. Further, the facillitator is required to maintain a deliberate high level of ambiguity (eg. there are no right or wrong answers here and everyone's opinion must be respected)and demand even token participation.

Most people who are decent and positional don't like conflict and will allowed themselves to compromise to maintain good relationships. Those who aren't susceptible to unfreezing are used as examples to show others what happens to people who aren't adaptive (pile -ons are encouraged). If too many similar positional people are allowed in a session, the session has to be ended and a more diverse group must be found. Attempts to move people around in a session and mix management with labor, men with women, races, etc. are all part of controlling the envoronment to control people's susceptability.

Incidently, the mass media applies this technique constantly in their choice of topics to report on. The group training techniques actually are refined versions of what were successfully applied in N. Korean POW camps. The techniques were used there to isolate leaders from followers, and then keep the rest of the detainees under relatively soft, but effective social control. Like inflation, not one man in a thousand sees the mechanism for what it is. Most recognize it as BS, but just participating in the process provides for its incremental success. Most therapists have abandoned one-on-one counseling because group techniques are more effective at controlling behavior, as well as more lucrative. One-on-one patients are encouraged to move to group sessions as soon as they can be induced to do so.

Now, how doe that make you feel VRWCmember? ;-)

36 posted on 07/09/2003 10:10:34 AM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: WKB
I think they're on to something there!

I interviewed for a job at a company in Indiana, they casually mentioned I'd have to take mandatory "racial sensitivity" training, along with a whole list of other PC training, so I asked if EVERYone was required to take that course.

They said, well no, blacks "of course" weren't required to take it!
(International Truck; Fort Wayne, Indiana)
37 posted on 07/09/2003 11:55:44 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: LibTeeth; HeadOn; livius
Whatever "sensitivity training" and role-playing sessions you have attended, the Lockheed Martin Ethics training (a corporate standard training course that is consistent across the corporation) is not what you have described.

You are free to consider me "full of it" or uninformed, but I can assure you I have a better understanding of the content of the training course he attended than you do.

38 posted on 07/09/2003 12:22:01 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: LibTeeth
So is community oriented policing (COPS) used by most police departments who get DOJ grants, so is Total Quality Management (TQM) used by most "conservative" corporations

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Good post.

39 posted on 07/09/2003 12:25:19 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: livius
In her group, they did "role-playing" that seemed designed to distress and humiliate, and she thought it was particularly aimed at white men. That is, they were always the bad guys, or were being shown how awful they really were deep down inside.

That's exactly what it's designed to do. The facillitator (i.e., the manipulator) is in on the joke. The audience isn't.

40 posted on 07/09/2003 12:27:10 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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