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Funny how those accidental fires break out every time the government gets in an armed standoff with somebody they're unable or afraid to take on. Woodring is the Chaplin of the Michigan Militia. It sounds to me like they set him up on a trumped-up charge, used that as an excuse to try and make an example out of him, botched the raid, killed one of their own officers, and then he somehow escaped. I think we may see more about this on America's Most Wanted in the near future....
1 posted on 07/09/2003 5:52:59 AM PDT by Vigilant1
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2 posted on 07/09/2003 5:55:11 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Vigilant1
I thought the Chaplin was dead.


3 posted on 07/09/2003 5:58:19 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Vigilant1
Background on man in Fremont standoff

WOOD-TV - Channel 8

(July 8, 2003, 5:05 p.m.) Scott Alan Woodring, the man who kept police at bay in Fremont, is 40 years old. He is perhaps best known to many in the Fremont area for his stringent anti-government views.

Woodring's family describe him as a "non-violent" member of the Michigan militia and said that he does not trust the government. His family says he prepared heavily for Y2K and has stock piles of food and supplies in the house.

Reports indicate his only income was from a paper route. In 1996 he ran for Dayton Township Supervisor on an anti-government campaign. His family says he is religious and would spend hours studying the bible. His past criminal record includes receiving several tickets for not registering his car.

Late Sunday night authorities tried to serve an arrest warrant for soliciting sex from a minor.

His father was quoted as saying he didn't think his son would come out alive.

State police had said all along they wanted to end the standoff peacefully but were unaware of what Woodring had inside his home as far as weapons or explosives. Police had been engaging in so-called "scare tactics" such as using armored personnel carriers to circle the house, as well as detonation devices to keep their suspect on edge. Helicopters hovered day and night for surveillance and intimidation. Police never ruled out the use of force.

Woodring's family had wanted to negotiate directly with him. They said that's the only way to prevent further bloodshed.

4 posted on 07/09/2003 5:58:21 AM PDT by Vigilant1 (The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.)
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The Detroit News that Woodring was active in the group until the mid-1990s. They parted ways over ideological differences.

Strange that this is buried, considering the propaganda headline.

5 posted on 07/09/2003 5:59:06 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Vigilant1
Agree with everything you say, except the last sentence--the propaganda machine is already in high gear. I doubt we'll ever know all of it.
7 posted on 07/09/2003 6:01:42 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Vigilant1
So you don't trust the government either?

He broke the law! He solicited a minor for sex and was presented with a warrant. Woodring *refused* the warrant and barricaded himself in his home while still maintaining he was innocent. Doesn't sound like the actions of an innocent man to me, let alone someone who is deeply religious. Now he's a cop killer as well. Sounds to me like Woodring *wants* to be made an example. He'll get his wish.

Whether he distrusts the government or not, if he is innocent, he could have simply accepted the warrant and had his innocence proven. For all the 'oh he's a good guy, a man of God' stuff I've read about him, he certainly isn't proving so with his actions. Sounds to me like he had a fall from grace, and rather than admitting it, he's going to go out guns a blazing. Nope. Doesn't sound like a man of God to me. Sounds more like a lunatic martyr.

8 posted on 07/09/2003 6:04:47 AM PDT by rintense (Freedom is contagious, and everyone wants to catch it!)
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To: Vigilant1
Woodring is the Chaplin of the Michigan Militia.

This isn't in the story.

What's the source of your information?

9 posted on 07/09/2003 6:05:05 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Vigilant1
People must follow the laws or things like this could happen. Some stung up anti government junkie simply doesn't want to follow the law. It's unfortunate that an officer had to die in order to keep the peace.
12 posted on 07/09/2003 6:07:35 AM PDT by m1-lightning (My physics teacher's definition of a Democrat - Anything that has weight and takes up space.)
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I know the guy killed a cop. BUT - how come it's SOP to burn down the home?
14 posted on 07/09/2003 6:09:31 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: Vigilant1
May Trooper Kevin Marshall rest in peace.

And may Woodring rot in hell along with his fellow "Christian Identity" freaks.
15 posted on 07/09/2003 6:09:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Vigilant1
Funny how those accidental fires break out every time the government gets in an armed standoff with somebody...

Every time? Ohhhkaaay...


24 posted on 07/09/2003 6:28:31 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: Vigilant1
Tom Wayne, former chief of staff and executive officer of the Michigan Militia Corps Wolverines, told The Detroit News that Woodring was active in the group until the mid-1990s. They parted ways over ideological differences.

This is sort of interesting. Sounds like the Michigan Militia (which has striven to keep itself reasonably clean) threw him out for being an Aryan Nations sort of critter.

If he had ties, like you claim, of a religious character into the movement, he may have been trying to win over others to his particular viewpoint. Proselytizing for the Aryan Nations, perhaps.

34 posted on 07/09/2003 6:40:18 AM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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38 posted on 07/09/2003 6:47:10 AM PDT by SavageRepublican
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Thanks for the tour of ideologue dementialand.

47 posted on 07/09/2003 6:53:09 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Vigilant1
Is a militia 'Chaplin' the same as the militia 'comic'?
94 posted on 07/09/2003 7:54:33 AM PDT by verity
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Listen to the archive of the Tuesday Intelligence Report show that was devoted to the story of Scott Allen Woodring.

RealPlayer archive

WinAmp archive

114 posted on 07/09/2003 8:10:02 AM PDT by NWO Slave
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All Points Bulletin issued for Scott Woodring
By mjh
Posted: 7/9/2003

The Michigan State Police have issued an all points bulletin for Scott Woodring. MSP feel that Woodring had most likely left the house in Fremont prior to the attempted forced entry. Police stated that Woodring may have left as early as Monday afternoon. A search of the ruins has yet to turn up any evidence of Woodring and the MSP have gone over to a search and arrest plan. A warrant for Woodring's arrest has been issued on charges of Open Murder and Felony Firearms. Anyone with any information is asked to call 1-800-991-TIPS.

The Michigan State Police have also released autopsy information on Trooper Kevin Marshall.

Marshall had been hit by 4 small caliber rounds. The wounds made by these rounds were inconsistent with the type of weapons and ammunition used by the Police who carried out the forced entry.

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136 posted on 07/09/2003 8:33:20 AM PDT by rintense (Freedom is contagious, and everyone wants to catch it!)
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To: Vigilant1
It sounds to me like they set him up on a trumped-up charge, used that as an excuse to try and make an example out of him, botched the raid, killed one of their own officers, and then he somehow escaped.

That seems to be the gist of the story. What is missing is the reason why the jack booted thugs had Woodring on their hit list.

268 posted on 07/09/2003 5:52:35 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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I didn't see this on the *bang_list. I hope I don't find it after I've posted this.
279 posted on 07/09/2003 6:26:21 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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I have just one question for such folks: When was the last time someone got away from a SWAT team surrounding them?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/940003/posts

Thought you might like to read this one...

407 posted on 07/11/2003 9:26:46 AM PDT by FenianOfEire
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