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To: Vigilant1
So you don't trust the government either?

He broke the law! He solicited a minor for sex and was presented with a warrant. Woodring *refused* the warrant and barricaded himself in his home while still maintaining he was innocent. Doesn't sound like the actions of an innocent man to me, let alone someone who is deeply religious. Now he's a cop killer as well. Sounds to me like Woodring *wants* to be made an example. He'll get his wish.

Whether he distrusts the government or not, if he is innocent, he could have simply accepted the warrant and had his innocence proven. For all the 'oh he's a good guy, a man of God' stuff I've read about him, he certainly isn't proving so with his actions. Sounds to me like he had a fall from grace, and rather than admitting it, he's going to go out guns a blazing. Nope. Doesn't sound like a man of God to me. Sounds more like a lunatic martyr.

8 posted on 07/09/2003 6:04:47 AM PDT by rintense (Freedom is contagious, and everyone wants to catch it!)
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To: rintense
r:
"He broke the law! He solicited a minor for sex and was presented with a warrant."

No, he was accused of this. People are innocent until proven guilty where I come from.
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R:
"Woodring *refused* the warrant and barricaded himself in his home while still maintaining he was innocent. Doesn't sound like the actions of an innocent man to me, let alone someone who is deeply religious."

He didn't trust the government not to waste him, which many people in this country don't. So that makes him automatically guilty? What a load of crap.
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r:
"Now he's a cop killer as well."

Did you even read the article ??? It looks like the cops killed one of their own officers when they botched the raid.
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r:
"Sounds to me like Woodring *wants* to be made an example. He'll get his wish."

He may be a guilty man trying to evade justice, or he may be a man unwilling to be shot down by trigger happy cops, like Randy Weaver's wife and many other people have been. The truth is that neither of us know what really happened.

18 posted on 07/09/2003 6:16:44 AM PDT by Vigilant1 (The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.)
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To: rintense
"He broke the law! He solicited a minor for sex and was presented with a warrant."

No, he was ACCUSED of breaking the law. And the authorities must presume him innocent until proven otherwise.

JBT-think.
56 posted on 07/09/2003 7:04:00 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: rintense
"Now he's a cop killer as well."

I don't think we know that for sure yet. This may be a case of 'friendly fire'.

154 posted on 07/09/2003 8:43:57 AM PDT by wcbtinman (Only the first one is expensive, all the rest are free.)
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To: rintense
"He broke the law! He solicited a minor for sex and was presented with a warrant. Woodring *refused* the warrant and barricaded himself in his home while still maintaining he was innocent. Doesn't sound like the actions of an innocent man to me, let alone someone who is deeply religious. Now he's a cop killer as well. Sounds to me like Woodring *wants* to be made an example. He'll get his wish. "

Wow! You sure KNOW alot about the case. I mean, to you he is guilty and should be properly hung.

How about the cops or someone trumped that charge and the cops shot their own guy, like they did in Lubbock, Texas.
298 posted on 07/10/2003 9:12:20 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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