County to round up and gas Canada geese

The Newark Star Ledger ^ | 06.29.03 | ROBERT E. MISSECK

[TheBattman]

Government agencies rarely do what's logical...

A couple of years ago, the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission trapped a large number of local Canada Geese from the Lake Dardanelle area. I happen to goose hunt there every year and it really made an impact on that year's goose season (for the bad). We didn't even know about the trapping until the season was over (G&F somewhat kept it a secret). The idea was that they traded the geese to another state for some other desireable wildlife.

If the geese are in such demand in other states, why not just trap them and ship them where they are wanted? Probably more cost effective because the receiving state would likely foot the bill for shipping the birds. This would make the enviro-nazi crowd happy because the birds are not being gassed.

Of course, as an alternative, the gassed birds could be processed to feed the poor - but I guess that makes too much sense.

[Diddle E. Squat]

I wonder if this was the idea of a dog with a raised paw?

[Calpernia]

>>>>From what I hear, they are pretty gross, with barely any meat..just a little dark meat on the breast, and this is not the time of year to eat them.

Bullcrap. I've eaten goose. It is a VERY healthy meat high in iron. Greasy if NOT prepared correctly.

With all the food pantries around to donate that meat too...hell, I would have taken a few birds!

Forget it...this is too frustrating for me to speak clearly.

[Calpernia]

Well, I'm one of the 1,000s. A monthly 1,000.

[LittleRedRooster]

It seems like the increase in Canadian Geese population may have occured following that change in the federal regulations. Not certain if that is the cause, but it is a contributing factor.

That could be a cause, when I first started hunting 25 years ago Canadian Geese were protected and you didn't dare shoot one, this lasted for quite a few years and so people stopped hunting them and never seemed to start again.
We just stuck with doves, duck and deer.

[LittleRedRooster]

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[LittleRedRooster]

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[AlexW]

Maybe they they can't really tell a Goose from a typical NJ resident.
Just teasing...
It is hard to imagine them being such a problem. Down here in Tennessee, we enjoy seeing them.
Only Starlings are "pest".
I did go through a few years of tradition by cooking a Goose for Christmas (can I still use that word?) dinner.
They are not so bad, but not as good as Turkey.

[Calvin Locke]

Three words: Wood Chippers, Alligators.

Recent post about a chicken farm got rid of its virus-infected "crop" with a wood chipper.

Then there is another chicken or egg farm down in NC. The owner found that raising gators along with the chickens is
beneficial. The reptiles take care of disposing of dead chickens, and provide additional worth in the form of both
leather and meat. Farm raised gator leather is worth more since it has fewer blemishes.

[WorkingClassFilth]

SKY CARP.

[Atchafalaya]

A good goose gumbo with a good red wine goes down so well! MMMMMMMMMMGGGGOOOOODDDDDDDD!

[xp38]

[aSkeptic]

if ya can't beat'm, eat'm!!

[Coleus]

SKY CARP.>>>

that's what they are.

[Coleus]

Ship them to Canada. Its their damn geese.>>

Great Idea! And they would probably kill them all since the Canadians wouldn't want all of their pristine lakes polluted.

[Redwood71]

Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that swans kill geese. The Canada goose is one badass MF when threatened; I don't believe a swan could defeat a goose.
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Here’s two article that indicate that swans are aggressive birds that will chase man in some occasions, let alone the geese.

Battle against geese
getting creative, serious
Towns employing various methods to move
once migratory birds
By carolyn o’connell
Staff Writer
OCEANPORT — There’s not a lot to the borough’s most recent attempt to rid Wharfside Park of the Canada geese that have taken up residence there.
In fact, from a short distance away, it is difficult to see what the borough has done. According to officials, that’s part of what makes it effective.
Five weeks ago, the borough’s Department of Public Works installed a fence along the shoreline, stretching approximately 600 linear feet.
"This method keeps the birds from traveling from the water to land to eat the grass," said Councilman Philip Apruzzi.
For the last four years, the borough has tried various methods to rid the park of geese, without much success in the beginning.
"We originally used black swan silhouettes, which worked for only three to four months," said Apruzzi. "What we didn’t know at the time is that the silhouettes had to be moved in order for the geese to think they were predators."

SWANS:
Beauties or Beasts?
P1082
RIU-G-88- 005
Stephen Olsen and Eleanor Ely
Most people admire the majestic white swans that glide along the surfaces of Rhode Island's coastal ponds-but the swans have their critics, too. Some local wildlife managers consider these large, territorial birds a nuisance, pointing out that swans chase ducks and geese, eat voraciously, sometimes attack people, and are not even native to Rhode Island.
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I always thought that the geese were pretty tough, but aparently the swans are bigger and more agressive.

[Redwood71]

Here’s some studies concerning diseases that the geese are spreading. There are more, but I have to go to work.



WORMS, WATERFOWL etc
Many of you particularly if you keep a number of geese will run them with other livestock such as sheep or horses . If a combined worming programme is not used there can often occur a case of worm resistance in one of the breeds . As an example , if geese or ducks are kept with sheep , goats or cattle the larger species can be wormed and the wormer will cause them to shed parasite eggs . Many of these will be killed , the others are then picked up by the goose or duck and will pass through their system and later reinfect the host, this being a frequent cause of "worm resistance" . The smaller species may also suffer as they may be reinfected via the larger re distributing their own worm eggs.


Project Leader: Larry Clark, Ph.D.
USDA/APHIS/WS/NWRC
4101 La Porte Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80521
(970) 266-6137
See Also: Project Goal, Objectives, and Accomplishments
Human Health and Canada Goose Feces: As Canada geese numbers increase in urban and suburban settings, public health concerns about human contact with goose feces rise. Though it appears obvious that large amounts of feces in the environment should correlate with a higher disease risk to humans, there are surprisingly few data on this issue. Lack of this type of data makes proper management of urban goose populations difficult. Management programs often result in lawsuits between advocates for a hands-off policy toward geese, and state and federal wildlife managers.

Two recently completed studies characterized E. coli in Canada goose feces found in urban environments. In a Fort Collins, CO, study, the overall prevalence of pathogenic E. coli in goose feces was found to be 25% (Kullas,et al. 2002). Four general potentially pathogenic E. coli and two virulence factors were identified. One virulence factor is known to produce severe diarrhea, while the other is associated as a causative agent for infantile meningitis.

In this Fort Collins study, researchers also quantified the amount of feces in public parks, estimating that a person taking a 1-mile walk in a park was likely to physically come in contact, on the bottom of his or her shoe, with 4-8 pieces of feces that contained virulence determinants.
A second study, a year-long national survey in New York, Wisconsin, Washington, Oregon, and California (Clark et al., unpublished), resulted in findings that were similar to the Colorado study.

[oyez]

And they would probably kill them all

And make great stuff with their livers.

[oyez]

SWANS: Beauties or Beasts?

They are territorial with a capital "T" and carry a huge attiude. Mix in nest or little ones and look out!

One our local office parks had introduced a pair in to their lake. When the next spring rolled around they assumed ownership of the outdoor smoking and break areas. Tennants often found themselves cornered. One night the birds disapeared.

[oyez]

SWANS: Beauties or Beasts?

They are territorial with a capital "T" and carry a huge attiude. Mix in nest or little ones and look out!

One our local office parks had introduced a pair in to their lake. When the next spring rolled around they assumed ownership of the outdoor smoking and break areas. Tennants often found themselves cornered. One night the birds disapeared.