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W & Rummy In Denial
New York Daily News | July 7, 2003 | Michael Kramer

Posted on 07/08/2003 6:28:49 AM PDT by SLB

Tommy Franks retires today - and none too soon.

It's not that Gen. Franks didn't wage a splendid war. He did. But the after-party is a mess, and maybe, just maybe, Franks' successor, the Arabic-speaking Lt. Gen. John Abizaid, can persuade his civilian bosses to get things on track. Assuming some bureaucratic courage, new blood can make a difference.

Abizaid's first and perhaps most important task will take place in Washington, a world away from the action. As he takes over from Franks, Abizaid will meet with his civilian and military superiors to debate the size of the force needed to get a grip on Iraq.

America's in-country civilian administrator, Paul Bremer, reportedly has asked for an increase of 33% in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, a request that would bring the total to well over 200,000.

That, by the way, would be close to the number of soldiers Gen. Eric Shinseki prophetically predicted would be necessary to rule Iraq - a bit of truth-telling for which the then-Army chief of staff was rebuked by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Adding more forces won't be an easy sell. The problems in Iraq are painfully obvious, but the administration is so invested in portraying the occupation as proceeding swimmingly that a top Pentagon official - who everyone knows speaks for Rumsfeld - has denied that Bremer ever asked for more boots on the ground. Incredibly, this official added, "If you put more troops in, you put more targets in there."

Well, yes. But what happens if you don't increase the force? This is one of those questions that is answered in the asking. Everyone who pays attention to the daily killings of American soldiers knows how bad the situation really is.

Everyone but President Bush and Rumsfeld, that is. At least for public consumption, Bush and Rummy are off together on a different planet, their blinders firmly fixed as they deny reality.

As always, it's Rumsfeld who's leading the charge. In fact, if watching Rummy get cranky weren't so much fun, it would be time to demand his resignation.

Most recently, Rumsfeld embraced a startling definitional contortion when he refused to admit that the U.S. might be close to facing a Vietnam-style quagmire in Iraq.

After that, the secretary went on to deny that America's troops are even facing a guerrilla war there - that, despite the Pentagon's own definition of such combat as "military or paramilitary operations conducted in enemy-held or hostile territory by irregular ground indigenous forces," about as perfect a definition of what we're facing as one could think of.

Once more, it has been left to a guy on the scene to tell it like it is.

"We're still at war," said the senior U.S. ground commander, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, on the day last week when 10 American soldiers were wounded in three attacks.

Rummy hasn't chided Sanchez, but that's probably because he hasn't gotten around to it yet.

As for Macho Man, he can't resist trying to one-up his defense secretary. "Bring 'em on," Bush taunted the Iraqi resisters the other day - a challenge Saddam Hussein's loyalists seem more than ready to meet.

Rummy hasn't weighed in on the President's line, although I suspect he's probably jealous that he didn't think of it. Sooner or later, Rumsfeld will come up with his own snappy retort and he might even reprise what he said at Pentagon briefing Feb. 28:

"Needless to say, the President is correct. Whatever it was he said."

Rampaging Rummyisms

And as long as I'm dredging up some of my favorite Rummyisms, I'll offer this from Oct. 8, 2001, a crack about Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden that could as easily describe today's problem in Iraq:

"What we are doing is that which is doable in the way we're currently doing it."

Which gets back to Abizaid. The way "we're currently doing it" is not good enough - and if he isn't blinded by getting his fourth star, Franks' successor will forcefully insist that the way it's being done has to change real fast.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; johnabizaid; rebuildingiraq; rumsfeld; vietnam
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Hmmmmmmm

I guess Gen (Ret) Shinseki is on the beach saying something like "told you so".

1 posted on 07/08/2003 6:28:50 AM PDT by SLB
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 6:30:55 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: SLB
There is a reason why Saddam ran that country the way he ran it. A mercyless barbaric style of control.
3 posted on 07/08/2003 6:35:24 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: SLB
Here's an interesting counterpoint to the above whining.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938827/posts

4 posted on 07/08/2003 6:41:10 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: SLB
It's not so much that W and Rummy are in denial as it is that they're surrounded by hapless amatuers who either don't understand why we went in as light as we did, or don't care because they want any ammunition at all to weaken the administration.

The truth of the matter is that there is no quagmire, no Tet offensive, no organized resistance, just a lot of mopping up still to do. That might not be as exciting or glamorous as tank battles and airstrikes, but it has to be done, and is completely normal.

5 posted on 07/08/2003 6:41:23 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (The slow blade penetrates the shield.)
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To: kjam22
There is a reason why Saddam ran that country the way he ran it. A mercyless barbaric style of control.

Yep, he wanted all the money and power for himself, the people be damned. The problems we're experiencing are coming from Saddam's people, who believe they can get control back if the US can be driven out. I dare say most Iraqi people don't want us to leave, don't want a return to the "bad old days."

Occupation is always difficult. Wiping out the monsters causing problems (a small number, but very brutal, like their old boss) will take time.

6 posted on 07/08/2003 6:44:25 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
I thought there was a bunch of anti-saddam guys protesting and flooding the streets who were also protesting the "american occupation".

I still don't buy into the idea that "the Iraqui people are a peaceful people who will embrace democracy".

7 posted on 07/08/2003 6:49:47 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: toddst


8 posted on 07/08/2003 6:50:21 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Texas_Dawg
Link to the picture above:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030707/168/4m25q.html
9 posted on 07/08/2003 6:51:05 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: SLB
That, by the way, would be close to the number of soldiers Gen. Eric Shinseki prophetically predicted would be necessary to rule Iraq - a bit of truth-telling for which the then-Army chief of staff was rebuked by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

I've often thought of how I would do things differently if I were President of the United States. Rule #1 in my book would be this: If a civilian government official rebukes a military commander in a military matter and it turns out that the military guy was right after all, then the civilian government official would be fired immediately and disgraced in public.

10 posted on 07/08/2003 6:52:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree...

I think another lesson maybe learned is that you don't disperse an army when you invade it's home country. You kill it.

11 posted on 07/08/2003 6:55:10 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
With all due respect to President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld, the military leadership in this country has known for years that civilian government is run by incompetent sh!ts. This attitude dates back to the Vietnam era, and explains why military leaders generally insist on doing it "their way" when it comes to waging war.
12 posted on 07/08/2003 6:57:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: SLB
How would more troops have prevented the types of killings we are seeing. I don't see the logic.
13 posted on 07/08/2003 7:10:37 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: SLB
Same crowd who said the war would be a "quagmire" and "another Vietnam."

So far, U.S. "peacekeeping" casualties are about EXACTLY in line with post-war casualties in such "hot spots" as Austria after WW II---that is to say, 20 deaths in 21 days.

14 posted on 07/08/2003 7:18:36 AM PDT by LS
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To: SLB
I guess Gen (Ret) Shinseki is on the beach saying something like "told you so".

How can he?

Kramer says Bremer "reportedly" requested more troops, then says this is "close" to what Shineski predicted.

First, what's "close"?

Second, Kramer is then forced to reluctantly concede that there are on the record denials of this "report".

I also had to chuckle at how he praised Franks' being replaced by Abizaid, and he goes on and on about how Abizaid can "set his bosses straight". Um, wouldn't it be "his bosses" that selected him in the first place for the position?! Perhaps he was put there because "his bosses" have more of a handle than Kramer could ever dream of how to handle Iraq.

And "quagmire" again. Please.

15 posted on 07/08/2003 7:25:42 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Alberta's Child
a top Pentagon official - who everyone knows speaks for Rumsfeld - has denied that Bremer ever asked for more boots on the ground.

How can the military guy be right about a non-existant circumstance?

There was no troop increase request, hence the citing of whatever Shineski's opinion was is moot.

16 posted on 07/08/2003 7:29:53 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Shinseki, Shalikashvili, Clark....still carrying clinton's water, just like they did when they were the Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon.
17 posted on 07/08/2003 7:32:03 AM PDT by clintonh8r (You can have no better friend and no worse enemy than a US Marine.)
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To: clintonh8r
Please pardon my fumble-fingers transposing any letters.

I am notorious for typos.

Shineski = Shinseki
18 posted on 07/08/2003 7:33:53 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
The issue isn't a "request for more troops" -- it's the use of the troops that are still there. The Pentagon initially believed that most of the troops would have been home by June, and Shinseki was lambasted by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz back in February or March when he dared to suggest that the troops needed in post-war Iraq would number in the hundreds of thousands.
19 posted on 07/08/2003 7:39:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: LS
I posted these to another thread yesterday.

I did a little research on American troops numbers and deaths in Vietnam.

On this date - 7 July

1965 Average of 125,000 in country and 13 deaths
1966 Average of 385,000 in country and 20 deaths
1967 Average of 525,000 in country and 52 deaths
1968 Average of 525,000 in country and 54 deaths
1969 Average of 536,100 in country and 33 deaths
1970 Average of 400,000 in country and 21 deaths

Americans have gotten so used to winning "huge" battles or conflicts with a minimum loss of life. Since the first of May there have been about 30 deaths in Iraq, granted each is a tragedy, but what would the public outcry be if the death toll was the same as one day in Vietnam with about the same number of soldiers involved? Look at the figures for 1965 - 13 in just one day!

20 posted on 07/08/2003 7:43:09 AM PDT by SLB
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