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Africa: Mystery Boeing 727 briefly resurfaces in Guinea then disappearance again.
The Sydney Morning Herald ^
| July 8 2003
| staff writer
Posted on 07/07/2003 4:10:46 PM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
A stolen 727 in Africa. Bush in Africa. = kamakaze attack on Bush? Hmmmmm....
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:16:24 PM PDT
by
demlosers
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:17:04 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(Lurking since 2000.)
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07/07/2003 4:17:48 PM PDT
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To: yankeedame
To: yankeedame
I'm not sure I buy this claim.
To: yankeedame
Wow what crap. Finding a 727 ain't so hard unless you're Hans Blix trying to find Gate #12 at JFK.
Just look for the fuel bills. Depending on range configuration, it takes three trucks on wheels pumping themselves dry just to fill her up. From ramp ports connected directly to bulk tanks and compression pumps it takes about 20 minutes to fill her up. And of course about $20,000 in cash, or credit.
Let's not forget the 10,000' runway.
My bet is on some huge unpaid fuel bills, maintenance bills,or some skipped lease payments caused it to become a repo. 727's are not fetching top dollar these days. The last three I had any contact with, two went to Turkmanistan as their royal planes and the other one here in the states was being used by the Denver Nuggets basketball team and was in no shape to cross the ponds.
That being said though, the 727 has become a real workhorse for small third world nations. Turkmanistan rebuilds and recertifies the engines, supplying them worldwide.(comforting thought eh?)
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:31:19 PM PDT
by
blackdog
(Who weeps for the tuna?)
To: blackdog
Meanwhile, passengers in the US continue to be screened for weapons before boarding planes.
My wheelchair bound mother was screened. Dad was sent to the back of the regular line to be screened.
I guess nobody figured out terrorists would find another way in to the cockpit. (Growing pilots will work, too, assuming Egypt Air 900 wasn't the first time.)
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:53:07 PM PDT
by
Tymesup
To: Dog
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To: Dog
Uh, just when I thought it might be safe to dismiss this story over on that other thread... :(
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:06:58 PM PDT
by
demnomo
To: yankeedame
N844AAAmerican Airlines owned this plane once..
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:07:50 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
To: cardinal4
N-number : N844AA
Aircraft Serial Number : 20985
Aircraft Manufacturer : BOEING
Model : 727-223
Engine Manufacturer : P&W
Model : JT8D-1
Aircraft Year : 1975
Owner Name : AEROSPACE SALES & LEASING CO INC
Owner Address : 9990 SW 77TH AVE PH 9
MIAMI, FL, 33156-2661
Registration Date : 03-Jan-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Hey where did you get that info? Is there a "N" register look up online?
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:17:07 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
To: demlosers
A stolen 727 in Africa. Bush in Africa. = kamakaze attack on Bush? Hmmmmm....
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They get Bush and Cheney takes over? Talk about jumping out of the frying pan...
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
You just beat me to it
(I couldn't remember my password)
Sounds like a repo to me...
To: blackdog
...owned by a member of West Africa's Lebanese business community... I don't think it' s a repo. I think it's a Hizbullah weapon.
We've got to find it.
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:43:36 PM PDT
by
livius
To: yankeedame
Thanks for the update. This is a strange case.
To: livius
You can rent a 727 for $20,000 per month if it's got an old cockpit and run out engines, these day's for even less. Flying one here from another country is not going to work. We know from whence it came, the names of pilots, it's route of flight and most likely have a hidden transponder on board that we've been tracking for years. They do that right here in the good o'l USA if they think you fly drugs.
A large commercial airplane used as a weapon in the USA will originate in the USA due to the fuel on board. A plane from another country will have no more than an hour's fuel on board when it arrives in most cases. Loading it up with much more in say, Greenland or Freeport only to be going to the states would be a dead giveaway. A commercial flight never loads up with fuel beyond the legal reserves. The ideal plane as a weapon would be a Northwest 747 non-stop out of JFK to Osaka, then becoming the weapon ten minutes after departure.
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posted on
07/07/2003 7:00:56 PM PDT
by
blackdog
(Who weeps for the tuna?)
To: cardinal4
You can look up any plane's records by it's tail number online.
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posted on
07/07/2003 7:02:14 PM PDT
by
blackdog
(Who weeps for the tuna?)
To: blackdog
and if the plane has a nuclear weapon on it? how much fuel it has won't make much difference in that case.
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