[FreeTheHostages]

of course plants are a "sink" for CO2

so is the ocean

the unknown question is the capacity of these sinks

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement -- and we shouldn't be debating whether it exists with the Rats

rather we should be discussing what the conservative response to this fact is: market solutions rather than government-made solutions

[presidio9]

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement --

BZZZZZT! I'm sorry that is IN-correct.

Care to give us scientific evidence to support your belief?

[CharacterCounts]

The only "fact" I am aware of is that global warming is coincidental with changes in the Sun.

[ElectricRook]

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact*

global warming from manmade causes is a Conclusion. Facts are things that you measure or observe. The temperature at my house in the Upper Sonoran Desert of California reached a high of 92F today. That is a FACT. I think Elvis is controlling my local temperature from his alien space ship... That is a CONCLUSION.

If you confuse Conclusion from Fact, you might also confuse Fiction from Fact.

[Blood of Tyrants]

the unknown question is the capacity of these sinks

Plants are not a "sink" with a static limited capacity. They are a dynamic variable and simply keep growing. Or perhaps you hadn't noticed.

The problem with ALL people who have bought into the various liberal claptrap is that they are completely unable to grasp the cause and effect and reaction idea. For example, when taxes are lowered significantly, liberals invariably wail about lost revenue and "how are we going to pay for this" when the TRUE effect is that revenues go UP as people are encouraged th earn and spend more of their own money.

[TheBattman]

What scientific agreement? You are trying to tell us that 100% of scientists around the world totally agree that global warming is a "fact"?

You might want to check your sources.

Natural seasonal and yearly changes account for far more variation in climate than any "man-made" climate changes. Right now, where I live, although it's hot, we are experiencing the coolest summer I can remember. Normally by this point (2nd week in July) we have reached 100 degrees at least a couple of times. Thus far, we have not officially been above 97 degrees.

What about the drastic temperature swings scientists claim from historical periods - like the ice ages with in-between heat spells? This was long before they claim that man caused global climate problems.

The real issue is not the use of fossil fuels and the CO2 they release, but the big question of how long will the world's supply of these fuels last. As global supplies drop and prices increase, it will make economic sense to develop other fuel/power sources. I truly believe that we will run out of these natural resources before we do any significantly proovable damage to the climate.

[Reeses]

solutions

Change can be a net good. It does not matter if change is man-made or natural, what matters is if a change a net bad or good thing. Increasing plant food, warmth, wind, and rainfall are all good things for life on Earth. Trying to lock Earth into a static state is Luddite. What is the optimum temperature and percent of CO2 wanted? The scientists never answer that obvious question. It could be we should be generating more CO2, not less. The idea that Earth must be restored to 1950 or some arbitrary time goes unchallenged yet the idea is insane.

[=Intervention=]

"global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement -- and we shouldn't be debating whether it exists with the Rats"

That, sir, is a LIE. Your sources, please!

[Hanging Chad]

"...global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement -- and we shouldn't be debating whether it exists ..."
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I am a member of the "scientific community" and I do not buy-in to this theory.

The actual "facts" as you call them are few and far between. Is there any warming? How much? Based on what "norm"? Over what period of time? And then once such that 'fact' is established lets make a causal link to some 'human activity'. Which activity in particular? and over what time period?

Hey Chicken Little !
THE SKY IS NOT FALLING !

[balrog666]

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you just a random troll or a deluded greenie?

If you're referring to the IPCC reports, the scientists who compliled the data refused to sign on to the political conclusions that were tacked on in the executive summary.

If not, what kind of drugs are you on?

[RightWhale]

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact*

There are facts, and then there are true facts. Global Warming is factitious.

[redangus]

Having personally done an exhaustive study of weather records (1888-2001) in my State I can tell you there should be no consensus for GW in Indiana.

As for other areas I have read as much anti-GW info as pro-GW info and that is taking into account the media bias.

[laredo44]

rather we should be discussing what the conservative response to this fact is: market solutions rather than government-made solutions

We don't have a good enough atmospheric model to predict next month's weather, yet you want to "interfere" to counter some vague notion like global warming? What are the costs? What are the benefits? What are the risks? And you want to jump to solutions? You are frightening.

[lepton]

global warming from manmade causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement

Wanna try again? Global warming itself is questionable (and subject to defenitions), much less its cause. There has been a general warming trend over the last century, but there have also been cooling periods within that time. The scientific community can't even agree on a usable meaningful definition of "global warming".

[Paradox]

There are a few of us here who are a bit less skeptical of the GW claims. I am not convinced either way, but I do agree its something we need to keep an eye on. My guess is that it will take some decades before we know with enough certainty to take steps drastic enough to seriously degrade our lifestyles, or whatever.

However, as an exercize, I would have no problem discussing various market based solutions to this problem. Lets get away from the "scientific fact" claim, and start postulating possible fixes, IN CASE we need them. How about that?

[wgeorge2001]

"global warming from man-made causes is a *fact* -- a matter of general scientific agreement -- and we shouldn't be debating whether it exists with the Rats"


The rats and other chicken little outfits have been bilking American taxpayers for billions of dollars to clean the air and the oceans and the rivers; all for the children(not to mention the large amounts of mis-appropriated monies they love to steal "for love".
The black hearted devils know how to steal with a smile and a million words.