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A tangled web (State Dept.)
Washington Times ^ | 7/07/03 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 07/07/2003 1:50:47 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Former ambassador to the United Nations Richard Holbrooke entered the State Department debate last week, attacking former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and defending Foggy Bottom. But being a product of the Foreign Service himself, Mr. Holbrooke appears unwilling to address the real issue: the State Department's corrosive culture.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armitage; clintonholdovers; foggybottom; foreignservice; gingrich; holbrooke; inc; iran; northkorea; plutonium; powell; statedept; statedeptreform

1 posted on 07/07/2003 1:50:47 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Interesting info. I hadn't heard about State's witholding of the Korean nuke info, or the de facto tenure granted Foreign Service officers, prior to reading this.

I'm really in the dark about the whole culture and history of the State Dept. Can anyone recommend a good book on the subject?

2 posted on 07/07/2003 2:03:21 AM PDT by AHerald
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To: AHerald
A good book on the subject? I imagine 'Treason' would be good. Any book that mentions much about the Venona project. FReegards....

I thought Colin Powell was the smartest man in the world. The following can't be so! /sarcasm.

Even while the White House is supporting the thousands of protesters, Secretary of State Colin Powell last Wednesday called President MohammadKhatami "freely elected." But considering that the ruling mullahs rejected 234 of the other 237 candidates who wanted to compete with Mr. Khatami, calling the puppet of the mullahs "freely elected" is a not-so-subtle jab at the president's description of Mr. Khatami and the mullahs as the "unelected few."

3 posted on 07/07/2003 2:18:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (May you find some illegal fireworks and have a REAL happy July Fourth!)
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To: kattracks
The State Dept. has also fought alternative energy
researchers in the USA. The State Dept's Peter Zimmerman
[now with the Democrat's Presidential candidates']
routinely attacks any US researcher that might replace oil.

CONCLUSION : the State Dept is not loyal to the USA.

4 posted on 07/07/2003 2:27:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: AHerald
Can anyone recommend a good book on the subject?

Me too, ya! Although I can't think of one single author. Maybe two or three opinions.

After Holbrook took over most of the interview with Newt, on FoxNewSunday, Holbrook made the comment about his new book. hmmmm no wonder he got more mouth time!

5 posted on 07/07/2003 2:27:47 AM PDT by malia
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To: malia
After Holbrook took over most of the interview with Newt, on FoxNewSunday

I saw that, too. Not bad for Tony, giving Holbrook both the opening and closing statements. Tony has a hard time interrupting liberals who raise their voices and keep on talking. He doesn't have much trouble interrupting conservatives.

6 posted on 07/07/2003 2:49:31 AM PDT by patj
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To: kristinn; AHerald
Can anyone recommend a good book on the subject?

Do you remember the name of the book that our out-of-town-friend was reading last year and highly recommended that we also read?

7 posted on 07/07/2003 4:10:29 AM PDT by tgslTakoma (Hillary!'s book is reputation-cleansing prep work for a run for higher office; FReep her everywhere!)
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To: AHerald
This is in no book that I know of, but when Holbrooke served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Southeeast Asia during the Carter era he made an immediate splash.

Working freely under Secretary of State Cyrus "let a thousand flowers bloom" Vance, he urged the immediate recognition of Communist Vietnam. That would have occurred had it not been for the nasty Hochiminhers demanding a two billion dollar reparation before they would recognize the USA!

He attempted to come to the rescue of the Communist military leaders in Laos following what was reported as a terrific flood along the Mekong River. When it was learned that the flood was seasonal and the Laotians were trying to bleed the do-gooders Holdbrooke had to back off.

Supporting Dpty Asst Secy of State for Human Rights Pat Derian he sought to end the foreign aid assistance to Thailand only to be told by State's only heavy hitter, Philip Habib, to back off. (Habib had to remind Derian that the USA had nearly a century and a half of friendship with Thailand, and that it wouldn't be ruined by a half-assed foreign policy blunder.)

Later on, Holbrooke would take credit for the progress made to halt the Bosnia-Herzegovina impasse suggested by Bob Frazure. (As I recall, Frazure was killed in an auto accident trying to keep up with a vehicle carrying General Wesley Clark which was being driven recklessly.)

Its too bad that someone hasn't written an honest biography on Holbrooke. Americans would find that he is not a very lovable character. Regarding the other point, of course their are partisans in the State Department, and like journalists, most are liberal leaning.

8 posted on 07/07/2003 5:30:15 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: patj
I think he is not happy with Bush and friends. So any criticism is welcome, go at it!!

I'm not a fan of Tony's. He might be happier at CNN.

9 posted on 07/07/2003 10:32:24 AM PDT by malia
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To: kattracks
bttt
10 posted on 07/08/2003 2:41:38 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: malia
I'm not a fan of Tony's. He might be happier at CNN.

LOL! Tony has lurked at FR for years, and is a good friend of Linda Tripp.

11 posted on 07/08/2003 10:00:35 AM PDT by an amused spectator
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