Three "teens" arrested in NY with a cache of guns and 2,0000 rounds of ammo. Killing Spree Planned

FOX NEWS | 7/6/03 | me

[Malsua]

Camden may as well be Philly.

The fact that it exists in NJ means nothing. It's a Philly slum.

NJ isn't as bad as painted in this article. I grew up in Rural Ohio...Sussex NJ is much more remote. I can spend forever extoling the virtues of rural NJ and unless you've been here, you simply won't believe me. Bears in NJ? Not possible, right? I get them all the time...go figure.

-Mal

[Salman]

Camden may as well be Philly.

Except that bad neighborhoods in Philly aren't near as bad.

There are actually three New Jerseys. There's the New York New Jersey, there's the Phildelphia New Jersey, and then there's the New Jersey New Jersey.

The New Jersey New Jersey is the least populous.

[syriacus]

Merely driving through Camden on the route between NY and Philadelphia is a discomforting eye-opener for a family of six.

You would think the biggest businesses in town were topless bars.

[syriacus]

Atlanta looked pretty bad too.

I was surprised to see that.

This is only part of the table, showing the worst cities for crime, from http://www.springstreet.com/common/rd.jhtml?rdpath=http://www.morganquitno.com/cit00dang.htm&frameset=true

The actual table shows all 315 cities.

It could be outdated and I think it only shows cities over 75,000.

Most Dangerous Order	Safest Order	City	Score	1998 Population
1	315	Detroit, MI	354.71	999,976
2	314	Atlanta, GA	348.29	414,262
3	313	Camden, NJ	320.07	85,184
4	312	Baltimore, MD	307.57	662,253
5	311	St. Louis, MO	302.33	344,153
6	310	Gary, IN	286.37	111,713
7	309	Flint, MI	273.29	135,438
8	308	West Palm Beach, FL	267.61	82,538
9	307	Miami, FL	255.59	372,949
10	306	New Orleans, LA	249.15	471,157
11	305	Tampa, FL	238.68	295,027
12	304	Kansas City, MO	236.86	447,730
13	303	Jackson, MS	236.32	193,401
14	302	Richmond, VA	235.00	194,024
15	301	Youngstown, OH	231.89	86,890

[syriacus]

Good old Fargo!

It does look good.

[mware]

That town is about 30 miles from where I live. From what I heard, they also intended to take out some kids in a middle school.

[mware]

Oh by the way I saw a clip of them taking the eldest of the three to the police station. He is a white kid, he was also dressed in all black clothing.

[Lynne]

Here's the real information. The kids were from Oaklyn, NJ. Oaklyn is between Audubon, Collingswood and Haddon Township. Oaklyn does not have a high school and the kids go to Collingswood. The 18 year old's mom died when he was nine, and his brother has had operation after operation for a cleft pallate. Both boys were subjected to teasing in school. They lived in an apartment over a closed bar and the boys had a windowless bedroom where the 18 year old played on the computer. His brother was NOT one of the 3 teens. The 18 year old began to associate with the Matrix characters.

The guns were his fathers, some of which were very old. One was given to him by his grandfather. The ammo was old ammo too.

This came from today's paper.