Palestinians: 'Zionist' Christians illegitimate

World Net Daily ^ | 7/5/03

[truthandlife]

At a conference this week, Palestinian church leaders declared American Christians who support Israel's right to the Holy Land based on biblical grounds have no connection to true Christianity.

The three-day event in Bethlehem featured speeches by Archbishop Munib Yunan, Manuel Chassasian and Fr. Marun Laham who emphasized "Zionist Christianity is not connected to Christianity in any way," the Palestinian Authority daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida reported, according to Israel-based Palestinian Media Watch.

The leaders called for the Zionist Christians to be repudiated and discussed holding conferences in the United States to further the views of Palestinian churches.

In a lecture, conference President Jarris Khouri linked the return of Jesus from Egypt to Israel to the Palestinian aspiration for refugees to return to homes they had before the creation of the modern state of Israel.

Khouri said without such a return there will not be a just peace.

The speakers said the Christian Zionists are opposed to the U.S.-backed "road map to peace" and are against the Palestinian rights.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

ok that did it im officially confused cause nothing that article made any sense

[joesnuffy]

But the Prez is an Evangelical Christian as well........
Palestinans declare my faith illigitimate then take my tax money and declare war on me and my family?
NOT ONE MORE PENNY FOR THESE BASS TURDS MR. PRESIDENT...
To give these animals Israeli land for a terrorist base camp is insane imo....insane....
Looks like Evangelicals and their children are next on the terrorist's hit list...
and thanks to our leaders and their Saudi grease money we have been sold out to theses same Palestinans supported by the Saudis

[joesnuffy]

God made a covenant with Abraham and his descendants...
Abraham Isaac Jacob
God told Abraham specifically that Ishamael WOULD NOT BE HIS HEIR......
It was said about Ishmael that "He would be a wild man...his hand against everyman and everyman's hand against him...he would dwell among his kinsmen..."
These are the race once called Philistines...and thy do as the Philistines have always done
as enemies of God's people..
David vs Goliath II

[gedeon3]

'Palestinians: 'Zionist' Christians illegitimate '

Since when are these criminals an authority in Christianity? I think it’s funny to see ‘people’ who are 100% illegitimate, to call legitimate people illegitimate

[Fiddlstix]

Ping

[gedeon3]

Right on!

[CARepubGal]

CINO's is being kind.

[CARepubGal]

First the Saturday People then the Sunday People is a clear cut declaration of war by The religion of Pieces. Looks like they are pulling out the useful idiots to try and move attention from their moon god's plans.

[Ethan_Allen]

truthandlife, ALL

I was a 'Christian' Zionist, too, before I started studying the Bible on my own, and learned that what the Bible really says has little to do with what we've been fed by the apostate church. I can't tell you what a weight I have in the middle of my chest reading these responses from Christians whom I know mean well. Christian Zionism is an oxymoron. If anyone wants to know why, let me know.

If you want to persist in your error, then have it your way:

Who is the Son of G-d?
http://www.noahide.com/son.htm

Who Was Jesus?
http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm

Who Are Christians?
http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm

Punishment for Christians See #VI 16
http://www.noahide.com/lawslist.htm

The Law is Only a Minimum
http://www.noahide.com/minimum.htm

Final War For Jerusalem
http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm



The first Supreme Court amicus brief which does not cite any American law.
http://www.jlaw.com/Briefs/capital1.html
(Link courtesy DPB101 )


(as for me and mine, we'll serve the Lord)

[SJackson]

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PMW: Bethlehem Committee Meeting Calls for Repudiation of Zionist Christianity)

[muawiyah]

Since you are not yet willing to go so far as to state that the folks who make up the World Council of Churches are not Christian, I will.

The officers, employees and adherents of the Wrold Council of Churches are not Christian.

There, that's been said. Carry on!

[Salem]

"...in good standing of the World Council of Churches. The other two I suppose are also card carrying members of the WCC. If so, that explains everything."

Yes it does. No further explanation required, indeed.

[Salem]

"...Jesus, no matter how much they protest, is indeed a Zionist and King of the Jews"

Haa, haa! I've never heard or read Him termed as such, but yes indeed, Jesus is the biggest Zionist of 'em all!

[Phsstpok]

But think of the amazing commercial possibilities if they should succeed in learning flying!

[Salem]

Interesting website. Real cheery. So, all Christians are under the death sentence, huh?

"...before I started studying the Bible on my own, and learned that what the Bible really says..."

Well, better give it another go round. You crashed and burned out in the weeds.

Hey, this is real interesting:

"...a growing consensus of leading rabbis willing to name the man most suited to be the Messiah, and they are agreeing that he is the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson."

Send my greetings to the messiah. Better tell the Jehovah Witnesses, though. They say the messiah is directing operations from the Watchtower Society building in Chicago (?). Wait, then there was David Koresh. I went round and round with his followers on his messianic credentials. Amongst a horde of other "messiahs" the world has seen come and go.

So, this Mental, er ... Mendal guy. Do you bow down and worship him? Kiss his feet? Give him money? :-D

[Alouette]

they had no homes in the area known as modern Israel before modern Israel.

That is a reference to the homes of the Jews which they coveted and which their leaders promised them that they could move into after the Jewish owners were killed.

[Alouette]

I was a 'Christian' Zionist, too, before I started studying the Bible on my own

You should have attended a Bible class, judging from the silly comments that you posted on this thread showing that you are incapable of reading an entire chapter in context, or an entire book of the Prophets from beginning to end. You pick out here and there what you like and toss the rest.

Oh, and, since you appear to have this thing against "Noachides" I am pinging a real, live Noachide to this thread because you appear to have their faith just as messed up as your interpretations of individual lines of scripture taken out of contexts.

[Alouette]

"...a growing consensus of leading rabbis willing to name the man most suited to be the Messiah, and they are agreeing that he is the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson."

The Lubavitcher Rebbe (of blessed memory) was a highly respected leader of a large hasidic sect. He passed away 10 years ago. A few years before his passing, there were some members of the movement who began to claim that he was the Messiah, although he never made that claim for himself.

Since he has passed away, it is generally now agreed that he "could have been" the Messiah but that the time was not right.

In any case this is not some weird cult but a highly respected mainstream Jewish movement, one that has played a great role in the renaissance of Jewish religious and communal life in the former Soviet Union. Here they are welcoming President Bush to the synagogue in St. Petersburg (Russian Federation)

[rmlew]

I was a 'Christian' Zionist, too, before I started studying the Bible on my own, and learned that what the Bible really says has little to do with what we've been fed by the apostate church. I can't tell you what a weight I have in the middle of my chest reading these responses from Christians whom I know mean well. Christian Zionism is an oxymoron. If anyone wants to know why, let me know.

I won't speak to Christian theology. it would be inappropriate and presumptious. However, I believe that you have fallen for an odd sect of "Christians" who either believe in an Aryan Christ (aka Nazis) or delusional reactionaries who see a giant Jewish-Belshevik-NWO conspiracy.

Noahide.com is a homepage of a single sect of Judaism. In fact, I don't even see a formal relationship between it and Chabad. It is rather suspect.
It is as if I took one of the more unusual sects of Christianity and extrapolated a webpage, claiming to represent them, to be the agenda of all Christians.

At best the Hassidic Gentile movement is a analogue to the Messianic Jewish movement. Frankly, I question its authenticity.

The truth is that Jews consider Christians to be followers of the Noahide code. Some may consider the Trinity to be polytheism (Muslims and Unitarians agree) and others do see Christianity as idolitary or as perverted Judaism.
That is no different than the view of many Christians towards Judaism. It certainly is not nefarious. Rather, their is a theological disagreement that will be ended when the Messiah reveals himself. Only one of the three religions can be correct.

Unlike Christians who have viewed Jews either as damned or agents of the devil, Jews view Christians as wayward brothers. Moreover, we tolerate non-Jews. Judaism is not a universalist religion. We are to be a light unto nations.
We do consider certain behavior unacceptable. Hence, the Noahide Laws as set for by God, not some Rabbi.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Christian Zionism is an oxymoron.

Jesus, no matter how much they protest, is indeed a Zionist and King of the Jews (Jesus said these pagans named him as such themselves).

He will return to kill them. They think they can resist.